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| Why has nobody made a browser which adblocks without the website detecting it? |
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| PlainName:
--- Quote ---To impede tracking, it fakes clicks to basically give them junk. --- End quote --- I don't think it does. It is one thing to fake clicking on ads so they get a distorted view of what you might be interested in, but a click on an add from website A tells HQ you were on website A, regardless of what ad you faked looking at. The only way ad nauseum could fake your travels would be to actually visit random sites and click ads on there, but generating fake traffic to websites is a really bad thing to do. |
| Red Squirrel:
Actually it would be a cool feature if you could set a mode where it does just this. This would hopefully fool those sites that can detect ad blockers. |
| Black Phoenix:
--- Quote from: james_s on May 07, 2021, 01:16:50 am --- --- Quote from: Whales on May 07, 2021, 12:58:18 am ---The paradigm of web content has shifted greatly. Originally pages were sent to you in plaintext HTML, CSS and images were shown using <img> tags. Now some sites serve a blob of javascript that runs in a (semi) secure VM in your browser to generate the page. This dramatically shifts the level of control & power away from you and into the publisher's hands; they can do any sort of computations they want in return for you being able to see their pages. Detecting adblockers is just the tip of the iceberg. --- End quote --- I really dislike this trend. There are very few things on the modern internet that I find superior to the old days when sites loaded quickly on even a dialup connection. Most of the modern bloat just gets in the way of accessing the information. --- End quote --- I don't connote the fact that is discussed here, I hate Ads and the likes as any one. I never cared about ads to something I don't know I will buy. When I need to buy something then I will look for it. No need to source me that crap before I'm interested in it. If they want to use my computer they should pay for it as they pay to have their website hosted. But the reality is that Ads and the likes is what makes possible for websites like this one to exist. Not everyone have financial headroom to pay for hosting. Yes nowadays hosting is very cheap, but is still a cost, specially because what is really the money maker (I'm may be wrong, last time I needed hosting were like 5 years ago) is the bandwidth and amount of data you are allowed to use. Happens with Mobile Services, Happens with Internet Services, same in the Server World. A good bandwidth and a big data cap is what everyone wants. But that have a big cost. Add that to IT Support/Development of the website, plus how many people who insert info on them (talking about most news websites) plus a lot more people to support that people, etc and the fee starts to add. This is a forum, their users post here their knowledge for free, they know that their info is available to anyone who wants to read, and can be used for profit by third parties (if it is technical info that may help to skew a company product in the right direction/out of the ditch for example). They know that when they accepted the terms and are OK with that. No one will ask for rates of their contributions. Although Dave still have to pay for the hosting and traffic. Someone have to do the maintenance and the hot line support when problems happen (see the data centre and the database problems in the last month and a half). So I hate Ads, but I understand why they exist. Unfortunately the what was Ads now are mining scripts that mine crypto while that browser tab is open and you are still in the website, with in some cases being persistent in the browser memory until it is closed/restarted. That I disagree. |
| NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on May 07, 2021, 01:51:36 am ---So I hate Ads, but I understand why they exist. Unfortunately the what was Ads now are mining scripts that mine crypto while that browser tab is open and you are still in the website, with in some cases being persistent in the browser memory until it is closed/restarted. That I disagree. --- End quote --- Exactly how do those crypto miners hidden in ads really work? If they work the way pool mining normally does, could it be possible to more or less hack it so that it submits a lot of invalid shares (i.e. claim that a nonce solves the hash to the pool's satisfaction but actually doesn't) and gets the account blacklisted for excessive invalid shares? |
| Circlotron:
I use a hosts file. Works okay for me. https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ I've also got Adblock Plus running too, so between them both I see nussink. Amost. |
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