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Why hp laptops have got so bad reputation??
Warhawk:
I guess that is mainly because of "Presario" and "Pavilion" existence.
Practically everything from the business class segment is more or less good. Probooks & Elitebooks including.
rrinker:
Could be because all of the HP laptops I've used over the past gew years have gottn complete wipes and fresh OS installations - from Microsoft ISOs, not the HP ones. The one I have now was running Win 7 from a clean install, so the only HP stuff was for device specific drivers like the webcam and fingerprint reader. I did a clean Win 7 install when I put an SSD in it. I was outgrowing the SSD so I put a 500GB model in, and rather than duplicate the existing one, I put on a clean copy of Win 8.1. Which subsequently got the free Win 10 upgrade. None of HP's software is installed.
A few years ago, GF needed a laptop so I bought a cheap ($279) Compaq one. Before I got done cleaning out the bloatware and installing useful stuff, it died. I opened it up and found the heat pipe was not secured to the CPU, so I cleaned off both mating pieces with alcohol and applied some good quality thermal paste and put it back together. 6 years later it still works fine. It came with only 2 or 3GB RAM, so I expanded that, and I uninstalled all of the useless crap, and considering it's a basic Celeron CPU and probably the slowest spinny hard disk you can get, it works reasonably well. I guess they should sell those cheap ones as "some assembly may be required".
I don't think I'd touch Dell servers these days - 2 different clients, one bought 4, the other bought 10 - and both had a 50% failure rate out of the box. One was memory, except it was the MB, not the memory sticks, and the other I forget but it also required MB replacements. That's pretty poor quality control, considering in both cases this wasn't like they worked for a few days or weeks and then died - they didn't boot, fresh out of the box. Way back before HP bought Compaq, I was in Compaq's Houston and Atlanta facilities multiple times for various training. Particularly in the plant in Houston, they had tons of specializes test cells, 100% testing on all units. The manufacturing floor was incredible, and the campus itself was way ahead of its time when it came to coexisting with nature - most building to building interconnects were raised so as to allow a continuous grassland from one side of the property to the other so as not to disturb a deer species that used that land for yearly migration. Plus the walkways were all glasses in, so you could get quite up close with the wildlife. Plus they had all sorts of fancy lighting controls and geothermal AC.
rollatorwieltje:
In the Core 2 Duo era there were some shitty Elitebook models that would completely die out of nowhere, typically just after 3 years. The only visible thing was the power led faintly flickering. I haven't seen any issues with the ones we had after those.
The low end consumer stuff is just like any other brand, just typical cheap construction and software bloat.
I have bought an Envy 14 once as well, nice machine except for the absolutely garbage display.
VK3DRB:
--- Quote from: blueskull on November 06, 2016, 10:13:49 am ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on November 06, 2016, 10:09:49 am ---Bad reputations stick. It seems Carly Fiorina ruined HP, a company which was once synonymous with quality and reliability.
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She received $100M compensation by firing herself :horse:.
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This bloke makes Carly look like Mother Theresa...
Louis B. Gerstner revoked $40K of my retirement savings when he sold me and hundreds of other IBMer to a two-bit startup company. Meanwhile, Gerstner walked out with over $189 million severance pay. His son died choking on a steak sandwich a couple of years ago :-+.
CJay:
--- Quote from: rob77 on November 05, 2016, 10:14:38 pm ---my HP probook 6460b is going strong after 4 years of heavy usage and carrying it in a backpack everyday... so i don't know what you talking about ;) i do even have a cheapo HP 250 G4 and after 1 year of usage not a single problem..
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The HP machines along with most other 'brand' manufacturers, are made in a few grades, there's consumer crap, business and business elite, Probooks sit right in the middle and are a good, reliable machine.
6460b is lovely machine and I'd give one house space any time.
HP Elitebook 6930p is my daily drive, it's still rock solid although it's been upgraded a bit. I do have much newer machines but I like the 6930.
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