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Why hp laptops have got so bad reputation??

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wraper:

--- Quote from: Avacee on March 26, 2020, 04:31:53 pm ---I put an SSD in my mum's HP laptop and it now takes about 5 minutes to boot - runs great once booted into the OS.

It's a _few_ years out of warranty but contacted HP anyway and to paraphrase the information provided:- HP said the BIOS had detected a non-standard HP part so pauses during boot up to piss me off and would I like to buy a brand new laptop or an HP-approved SSD for about twice the price. Guess my answer :p

So when her laptop does die I won't be replacing it with an HP as any company who thinks gimping the BIOS is acceptable will never get a penny from me again.

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I've seen this only with wifi cards on HP. IMHO support told you some BS since in cases of unsupported hardware they simply don't continue to boot at all and show message about unsupported HW. And also because if laptop came with HDD, it should have been just some off the shelve model, without special HP firmware.
BTW in what way it is slow to boot? Does it wait 5 min before windows starts booting or simply windows booting process is very slow?

SiliconWizard:
One thing to note - failing bumps directly on the dies can't be usually repaired, or only for a very temporary fix after "reflowing" if you're lucky.

Another point is that any failed contact, if on some critical pads such as power supplies, can destroy the IC permanently (some ICs can be destroyed by not powering them with all power rails, in the proper sequence!) So what can be a soldering issue at first can also yield to destruction in some cases.

Benta:
I can't complain about my +10 years old 6910p, never had a single hardware issue and I'm still using it daily. Had lots of M$ issues, but that's beside the point.
OK, the 6910p was the high-end business model back then, which probably makes a difference.

schmitt trigger:
The problem with HP, is somewhat similar to General Motors.
They attempted to have a "car for every purse and purpose".

Which meant that although it did produce some good vehicles, there were others which to put it mildly, were unmitigated bovine feces. I personally suffered thru one of their early 1980s turds.
To compound the issue, GM many times ignored any problems because "We are GM. We can get away with it".
For me, this was the last time I bought a GM vehicle.

Everyone knows how this has ended. A company in severe decline.

Wilksey:
I've never had a failing screen backlight, but since my original post in 2016 the Probook 450 is still going strong, not had to replace anything in it, it doesn't get "heavy" use, but it gets used a fair bit.

Personally I have always used Dell for my main machine, be it desktop or laptop, I have a Dell XPS 17 which is circa 2011 which is still going, had to fix the screen hinge, a common fault with this laptop apparently, but not replaced any components inside of it, in fact, it's still running the original install of Windows 7, that has a 2nd gen Intel i7 NVIDIA GT555m chipset, and I also have a Dell G7 with a 9th gen i7 and a NVIDIA RTX2070 chipset, had it about 4-5 months, and it's running amazing at the moment, hopefully with its 64GB RAM it'll last till the next decade and be able to run everything I throw at it like the XPS.

I've had all sorts in the past, Acer, HP, Samsung, Toshiba, and Dell, apart from the Dell's (even got an old Inspiron running XP Media Center, new HDD, new batt and new fan costing a whopping £30 all in (got HDD on auction on ebay, came wrapped and disk tested OK) and the Toshiba (i5, stock Intel graphics) they have all failed in some way or another.

I replace a fair amount of screens, but that is due to people managing to sit on them or shut them down on something, missing keys from keyboards, not much else "users' fault repairs".

I only go by my own experiences so other peoples experiences might vary.
Maybe it's because HP laptops are the ones that are the cheapest and mostly available everywhere (or they are here in the UK) that people just go and buy cheap and then they fail, a £300 HP isn't going to be built as well as a same spec £600 Dell or Acer, you pay your money you take your choice.
My old XPS was £1300, my new G7 was £1600, the old Inspiron was £800 all 17" screens but the Inspiron wasn't a "gaming" machine, where as the G7 and XPS were sold as such, although the GT555m will play games like GTA V on low settings left the game scene behind a few years ago now, it'll run all my old titles like Unreal Tournament, which I prefer to play than some "modern" titles.

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