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| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: coppice on March 16, 2022, 06:01:26 pm --- --- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on March 16, 2022, 05:11:10 pm ---Nearly 10 years ago I had to front up for a follow up tour of the UK, up through the middle, which was a embellishment of one just 12 months prior. After the first trip, I too became worried about the baggage retrieval system they've got at Heathrow*. And vowed to not put my coveted laptop in any unnecessary jeopardy. --- End quote --- There isn't a baggage handling system in the world that won't wreck a notebook. I saw a very nice high end Toshiba notebook (which are more robust than most makes) packed in the very centre of a large hard shell suitcase full of soft clothes. The suitcase looked perfect when it arrived. All the clothes looked OK when the suitcase was opened. When we got to the notebook at the centre it was a total wreck. The screen was smashed, the case was broken, the hard disk not longer worked when plugged into another machine to retrieve its contents. It wasn't my notebook. I thought it was a stupid idea to send it as checked in luggage. I was surprised just how thoroughly destroyed it was, though. --- End quote --- Thinking about this after a few minutes, I wonder, because of the batteries not allowed in checked baggage thing, if the luggage was opened and the device, um, 'spoken to'. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on March 16, 2022, 06:21:36 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on March 16, 2022, 06:01:26 pm --- --- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on March 16, 2022, 05:11:10 pm ---Nearly 10 years ago I had to front up for a follow up tour of the UK, up through the middle, which was a embellishment of one just 12 months prior. After the first trip, I too became worried about the baggage retrieval system they've got at Heathrow*. And vowed to not put my coveted laptop in any unnecessary jeopardy. --- End quote --- There isn't a baggage handling system in the world that won't wreck a notebook. I saw a very nice high end Toshiba notebook (which are more robust than most makes) packed in the very centre of a large hard shell suitcase full of soft clothes. The suitcase looked perfect when it arrived. All the clothes looked OK when the suitcase was opened. When we got to the notebook at the centre it was a total wreck. The screen was smashed, the case was broken, the hard disk not longer worked when plugged into another machine to retrieve its contents. It wasn't my notebook. I thought it was a stupid idea to send it as checked in luggage. I was surprised just how thoroughly destroyed it was, though. --- End quote --- Thinking about this after a few minutes, I wonder, because of the batteries not allowed in checked baggage thing, if the luggage was opened and the device, um, 'spoken to'. --- End quote --- This was before they complained about batteries in checked baggage. It was the era when many places forced you to check in batteries if you had more than the one or two you might need in flight. There were no signs of the bag being opened, at least from looking at the condition of the clothes. |
| SiliconWizard:
Odd question. You got answers already. Just adding that, there are Apple laptops that are less thin and more powerful in the Macbook Pro series. But if you need something chunkier, that has better thermal management for heavy-duty work, just buy something else. There are myriads of laptops out there. Or don't use a laptop. To each their use case of course. I personally favor a small (13" to 14") and light laptop for traveling, and fixed workstations for heavy duty applications when I'm not traveling. |
| Bassman59:
--- Quote from: aqarwaen on March 16, 2022, 04:07:47 pm ---I don't get it Why is Apple obsessed with making products thinner and lighter? why not just make macbooks what are decently thick and not so light? seriously why Why is Apple obsessed with making products thinner and lighter,also making their products overheat or thermo throttle cuse they are to think or light for decent cooling. I mean would not stopp buying them if Apple was more focused on performance,instead making them so lighter and thinner with each new generation --- End quote --- Well, hmmm, I have the new M1 Pro-based 16" MacBook Pro, and I can assure you it's neither thin nor light. It's heavier and thicker than the 15" Intel-based MacBook Pro it replaced. I put up with the weight and size because I need the performance. Hell, I shlepped a 17" MacBook Pro across the country in a backpack for years. My middle-school-age kid has a 13" MacBook Air (last Intel version) and given all of the crap he has to shlep to school, thin and light are paramount. And I'll say this: he does a lot of work using Logic Pro for recording as well as math stuff, and the machine is perfectly capable. He uses a quad i7 Mac mini at home when he needs the bigger screen. My wife has a 13" MacBook Air (first M1 version) and she values portability and weight over raw performance, especially when traveling. She too has a new-ish Mac mini at home, with a 4k display, for when she needs the bigger display. She has a docking station at the office. And be honest: all of the other laptop manufacturers make thin/light machines, too. Most of the road warrior types who use Windows machines have the 13" display/thin machines because again they value size and weight over raw performance. |
| BrokenYugo:
Another thing one must keep in mind is the most resource intense computing most people do on a routine basis is probably watching youtube or maybe zoom calls, they don't know or care that the thing will overheat and throttle if you hold it at 100% CPU, because they never do. A few years back my daily driver for quite a while was a 2008 IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad T60, 32 bit, 3GB, ran one of the lightweight Ubuntu variants. That would occasionally get overloaded and was generally showing it's age, but it was a fairly useable office/web type machine and was mainly retired because the hinge points were finally cracking and it blew a backlight inverter. It lasted a couple years after that as an occasional use "this would be easier in Linux" machine with a external monitor, that and I was addicted to the keyboard. |
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