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bsfeechannel:

--- Quote from: Cubdriver on January 07, 2020, 01:27:56 am ---And you'll still be wrong.  The US has 'gone metric' in areas where it makes sense to us to do so.  This has been pointed out ad nauseam in this thread, but there still seem to be some who simply refuse to get it.

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And this argument has been equally debunked ad nauseam in this thread. The US "gone metric where it makes sense" only defeats the purpose of metrication, which is to reduce the clutter and confusion of units.
 
Instead of ditching imperial and replacing with metric, you ADDED metric to an already cumbersome system.

Geez. I don't know if I agree with boffin, but I'm starting to understand why he says what he says.

vk6zgo:

--- Quote from: MT on January 07, 2020, 03:05:22 am ---
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on January 07, 2020, 01:09:10 am ---
The estimate of 500,000,000 (not from the "boogey people", by the way, but from State & Federal authorities), is for the current fires. Your "scientifically executed count" is not practicable, as safety is of the utmost importance, & we don't want people wandering around in the path of a fire "counting".

Farmers have a pretty good idea of how many animals they have.
If they have a measurable number of animals surviving,the figures for overall losses can be pretty accurate.

Native animals are another question, & can only be determined statistically.
Some animals are fast enough to make a good try at escaping the fires, others, like koalas have little chance of escape.
Snakes, & most lizards are very unlikely to survive.

You want "brutal", have a look at some of the news videos of the fires!

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That is one of the points, 500million is a silly estimation, noone is out and counting. Now the second point the reporting "on top" in contrast to yours "down under" is entirely focused on that the AU fires is due to "climate change" therefore GRETA and Soros try to exploit this for their agenda to make "number" out of that 500millon animals. its called "fear mongering".Well sure as hell they dont bother count all the insects burning do they? No of course not.

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Most people in Australia have only vaguely heard of Soros, & Greta is a schoolgirl for Pete's sake!
Why would we make up numbers to make either of them happy?

My other question is,
"Why the hell are we having this discussion in the middle of a thread about Metrication?"

If you can remember which thread you were originally answering, maybe the Moderators can shift us to that one.

bsfeechannel:
For those coming now to this thread let's summarize it. This thread managed to debunk the following ideas.

1)  Metric is French, communist and Eurocentric.
2)  The US will hand over its sovereignty to France if they adopt metric.
3)  The US is metricated where it makes sense.
4)  The US is not metric because the conversion costs money.
5)  The rest of the world has accomplished nothing.
6)  Since the US is the only nation that has accomplished something, the US can afford to skip metrication.
7)  Ι've seen someone buy an inch-only tape measure outside the US. The world is imperial just like the US.
8 )  Metrication can only occur under a general cultural and political upheaval.
9)  Metricated countries are ashamed of their culture and history.
10) The US is not metric because they are proud of their culture and history.
11) Pilots are proud of their ignorance about the units they use every day.
12) Those who decide to investigate all these false claims are arrogant pro-metric nut jobs.

This is just a short list. Help to expand it.

CatalinaWOW:

--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on January 07, 2020, 03:33:50 am ---
--- Quote from: Cubdriver on January 07, 2020, 01:27:56 am ---And you'll still be wrong.  The US has 'gone metric' in areas where it makes sense to us to do so.  This has been pointed out ad nauseam in this thread, but there still seem to be some who simply refuse to get it.

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And this argument has been equally debunked ad nauseam in this thread. The US "gone metric where it makes sense" only defeats the purpose of metrication, which is to reduce the clutter and confusion of units.
 
Instead of ditching imperial and replacing with metric, you ADDED metric to an already cumbersome system.

Geez. I don't know if I agree with boffin, but I'm starting to understand why he says what he says.

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The arrogance of the US is similar to the arrogance of most of the world in not converting to a decimal time system, decimal angles, and a rationalized calendar.  All of which would have advantages similar to those touted for the metric system.  (Except for standardization and the force mass thing which are real benefits of metric and are why metric is used in the US in places where those advantages matter.)

CatalinaWOW:

--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on January 07, 2020, 05:20:27 am ---For those coming now to this thread let's summarize it. This thread managed to debunk the following ideas.

1)  Metric is French, communist and Eurocentric.
2)  The US will hand over its sovereignty to France if they adopt metric.
3)  The US is metricated where it makes sense.
4)  The US is not metric because the conversion costs money.
5)  The rest of the world has accomplished nothing.
6)  Since the US is the only nation that has accomplished something, the US can afford to skip metrication.
7)  Ι've seen someone buy an inch-only tape measure outside the US. The world is imperial just like the US.
8 )  Metrication can only occur under a general cultural and political upheaval.
9)  Metricated countries are ashamed of their culture and history.
10) The US is not metric because they are proud of their culture and history.
11) Pilots are proud of their ignorance about the units they use every day.
12) Those who decide to investigate all these false claims are arrogant pro-metric nut jobs.

This is just a short list. Help to expand it.

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13) Non--metric is bad because I have non-metric in my old gear.
14) Metric is good because I am comfortable with it.
15) Standardization is good when it is metric, irrelevant when not.
16) Some French intellectuals said everything should be done in powers of 10, and we will worship that when it supports the system I use, but ignore it when the system I use has not caught up to the ideal of those intellectuals.
17) Those who provide first hand reports of non-metric usage are clearly American zealots and should be ignored.
18)  Whenever the thread settles into some sort of rational agreement one of the zealots on one side of the fence or the other dives in and rehashes the same old arguments.

I think 18) really covers it all pretty well.

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