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bsfeechannel:

--- Quote from: tooki on February 22, 2020, 12:28:43 pm ---We are here because you refuse to accept ANYTHING that contradicts your narrow worldview, including very reasonable, realistic reasons for not embracing metric to a degree you consider acceptable.
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54 pages dedicated to my "narrow worldview"? I'm flattered.


--- Quote ---Moreover, the fact that most Americans don't care about units at all doesn't mean none do. And many people who don't care about the issue itself will still come to the country's defense when under attack from morons like you.
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On the comment section of the following video by Dave (EEVblog #1284 - How Bad Product Design Kills The Environment), we have this assertion:

The US uses United States customary units.  We mostly use metric, but many things are standard units. Like eggs, wood, highway speeds. For more info see the wiki. The particular unit used is what is commonly used (in the US) in THAT field. Eggs don't come in packages of ten, they come in a dozen, and so on.

This guy doesn't know that eggs are not units of measure and that 12 is not a forbidden number.

He is the victim of an obsolete system that has no support from reason to exist. When this happens, usually some kind of mythic explanation is held in place of reason. Imperial is crippling the brains of the people who cling to it.

Does pointing that out make someone a moron? Does it constitute an attack to the US? If it is, I think the defense has come too late. The morons have apparently invaded the US borders already. They are even being bred and raised there. The remedy to "demoronize" those people is the immediate metrication of the whole country. We need to give our children a future, and the future is metric.


--- Quote from: xrunner on February 22, 2020, 01:34:02 pm ---LOL - we're on pg 54 (soon to be 55) because other people seem to care a lot that we don't care.  :-DD

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So you care that we care that you don't care. In short, you care not to care. It is this kind of contradiction that leads threads to that number of pages, and it is my job to identify it.
xrunner:

--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---So you care that we care that you don't care. In short, you care not to care. It is this kind of contradiction that leads threads to that number of pages, and it is my job to identify it.

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Have you ever ventured down to the bottom of the main forum page? Among other data there, is this (which I copied before starting this post so it will have changed by now).

1935 Guests, 257 Users (2 Hidden)

See that "Guests" number? 1,935 people? That's a lot. It may come as surprise to you, but other people read this forum and the threads here without being members, or sometimes as members, without even posting in the threads they read. I know, I know - it's a shock, but it's true. Try to take that in.

So, just because I and other people post in response to you and others in the thread, doesn't mean we are only considering that the active people in the thread are the consumers of the information. In fact, a lot of the time on forums, when I've dealt with someone who will not be convinced, I post to them anyway because I know other people are at least reading along. Other people all over the world.

Think about it.  :popcorn:
tooki:

--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on February 22, 2020, 12:28:43 pm ---We are here because you refuse to accept ANYTHING that contradicts your narrow worldview, including very reasonable, realistic reasons for not embracing metric to a degree you consider acceptable.
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54 pages dedicated to my "narrow worldview"? I'm flattered.

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Oh, honey, it's not a compliment. It proves only how obtuse you are.


--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---
--- Quote ---Moreover, the fact that most Americans don't care about units at all doesn't mean none do. And many people who don't care about the issue itself will still come to the country's defense when under attack from morons like you.
--- End quote ---

On the comment section of the following video by Dave (EEVblog #1284 - How Bad Product Design Kills The Environment), we have this assertion:

The US uses United States customary units.  We mostly use metric, but many things are standard units. Like eggs, wood, highway speeds. For more info see the wiki. The particular unit used is what is commonly used (in the US) in THAT field. Eggs don't come in packages of ten, they come in a dozen, and so on.

This guy doesn't know that eggs are not units of measure and that 12 is not a forbidden number.

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And? One anti-metric moron who isn't even part of the discussion doesn't prove that all Americans are anti-metric and/or morons.


--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---He is the victim of an obsolete system that has no support from reason to exist. When this happens, usually some kind of mythic explanation is held in place of reason. Imperial is crippling the brains of the people who cling to it.

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That is an absurd, idiotic, ignorant claim. That proves ONLY that you are wholly divorced from reality.


--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---Does pointing that out make someone a moron?

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Yes, since it's a moronic claim to begin with. Making that claim inherently shows someone is a moron.


--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---Does it constitute an attack to the US?

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This entire thread is an attack on the US, insofar as it was NEVER the intent to understand the motivations for not going all-metric, but rather just a pretense to lob insults at Americans. (If understanding had been the intent, then the thread would have died long ago, since the reasons have been explained ad infinitum.)


--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---If it is, I think the defense has come too late. The morons have apparently invaded the US borders already. They are even being bred and raised there. The remedy to "demoronize" those people is the immediate metrication of the whole country. We need to give our children a future, and the future is metric.

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Just digging your hole of moronity deeper, eh?

As for children: Please, for the love of god, don't have any.


--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 22, 2020, 04:47:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: xrunner on February 22, 2020, 01:34:02 pm ---LOL - we're on pg 54 (soon to be 55) because other people seem to care a lot that we don't care.  :-DD

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So you care that we care that you don't care. In short, you care not to care. It is this kind of contradiction that leads threads to that number of pages, and it is my job to identify it.

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You still don't understand the difference between "some", "most", and "all", evidently.

And no, it's not your job to point out this supposed contradiction, if there even were one, which there isn't. I explained to you already.
bsfeechannel:

--- Quote from: tooki on February 22, 2020, 06:40:40 pm ---This entire thread is an attack on the US, insofar as it was NEVER the intent to understand the motivations for not going all-metric, but rather just a pretense to lob insults at Americans. (If understanding had been the intent, then the thread would have died long ago, since the reasons have been explained ad infinitum.)
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--- Quote ---And no, it's not your job to point out this supposed contradiction, if there even were one, which there isn't. I explained to you already.

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So, this is it, isn't it? You have your clichéd explanation and our job is to accept it. No questioning, no investigation, no different point of view, even if your assertions are full of contradictions, misconceptions, and ignorance about systems of measure and other matters.

Otherwise, we are trolls, communists, French, Europeans, Australians, Brazilians--or other people not entitled to scrutinize your taboos--attacking the US.

You like to sweep rstofer under the carpet, but the thing is that each and everyone of you seem to have a bit of him inside. How about we all shut up and MAMA, Make America Metric Already?

The sooner, the better.
tooki:
Child, if anyone here is a cliché, it’s you. Many of us have attempted to explain basic logic to you, with clear, logical reasons for why embracing metric* without restraint isn’t necessarily optimal. Not one iota of it manages to penetrate your dense skull. That’s on you, not us.

*As well as tangential discussions of what metrication actually means: just writing things in metric? Or actually changing the controlling dimension to metric?
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