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forrestc:

--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on March 01, 2020, 01:32:21 am ---https://www.mcmaster.com/standard-sleeve-bearings
is the link to the McMaster-Carr directory for Oilite bearings (which is what bfees says he was buying).  They stock many, many sizes of such bearings in both Imperial and Metric sizes.  Most cost under $2.00, quite a few are under $1.00.  Prices on both the metric and imperial follow a similar pattern, with standard sizes having relatively low prices and a few odd ball sizes priced in the range that bfees mentioned.

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I posted a similar link.

bfees seems to have picked what he wants to from that post, ignoring the convenient table which shows the SAE/Imperial sizes being around the same price.   

The more I hear from him, the more I recognize all the signs of someone who has bought into a worldview and refuses to consider any evidence to the contrary.  For instance, he believes that SAE bearings cost more than metric ones, yet when provided a link showing that they're roughly the same cost, he ignores the facts.   This happens over and over.

I'm ok with having a reasonable discussion with someone as far as trying to understand what actually is the situation:  The US is not as non-metric as everyone thinks, metric countries are further along, but also not all as metric as everyone thinks.   There are interesting contradictions throughout.  Flight levels are in feet.  Houses in Canada are built in inches, and the standards that they have to comply with are apparently all based on inches, but the actual texts contain the metric equivalents.   I understand road signs in the UK are in miles.   And so on and on.  Yet somehow the US continues to be the only country that isn't metric because we haven't changed everything to metric.   

But bfees seems to not be able to carry on a reasonable discussion in this manner, but instead resorts to dogmatisim.
SilverSolder:

Another way to look at this issue is to think about what the situation will be like 100 years from now...   will the world have converged more,  continuing the ever accelerating trend we have seen for hundreds of years?  It seems a safe bet...
Cubdriver:

--- Quote from: forrestc on March 01, 2020, 02:21:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on March 01, 2020, 01:32:21 am ---https://www.mcmaster.com/standard-sleeve-bearings
is the link to the McMaster-Carr directory for Oilite bearings (which is what bfees says he was buying).  They stock many, many sizes of such bearings in both Imperial and Metric sizes.  Most cost under $2.00, quite a few are under $1.00.  Prices on both the metric and imperial follow a similar pattern, with standard sizes having relatively low prices and a few odd ball sizes priced in the range that bfees mentioned.

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I posted a similar link.

bfees seems to have picked what he wants to from that post, ignoring the convenient table which shows the SAE/Imperial sizes being around the same price.   

The more I hear from him, the more I recognize all the signs of someone who has bought into a worldview and refuses to consider any evidence to the contrary.  For instance, he believes that SAE bearings cost more than metric ones, yet when provided a link showing that they're roughly the same cost, he ignores the facts.   This happens over and over.

I'm ok with having a reasonable discussion with someone as far as trying to understand what actually is the situation:  The US is not as non-metric as everyone thinks, metric countries are further along, but also not all as metric as everyone thinks.   There are interesting contradictions throughout.  Flight levels are in feet.  Houses in Canada are built in inches, and the standards that they have to comply with are apparently all based on inches, but the actual texts contain the metric equivalents.   I understand road signs in the UK are in miles.   And so on and on.  Yet somehow the US continues to be the only country that isn't metric because we haven't changed everything to metric.   

But bfees seems to not be able to carry on a reasonable discussion in this manner, but instead resorts to dogmatisim.

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Not long before you posted your link, I'd actually done a screen cap of part of that very table and drafted a post with it inserted (so that he'd not even need to follow a link) pointing out the very similar prices for similar sizes.  I then decided that I was done feeding the troll - that's all he really is at this point in this thread (at least in my opinion), given that he ignores anything that logically explains the present state of metrification in the US then reiterates his arrogant holier-than-thou talking points about how backwards we all are for not 'seeing the light' and converting everything, now, because reasons.  Every point has been made and remade, only to be brushed off or dismissed as insufficient. Let's just ignore him, and let him yell at nothing.  Eventually he may get tired of no longer getting a rise out of people here, and go away.

-Pat
KL27x:
 :palm: I believed it was true, at least for ball bearings. Just from hearing his complaint, I assumed there was truth to it. I have never actually found an imperial ball bearing in anything, in my own stuff, but now I'm sure it's just because everything I own is designed and in China, Germany, Japan, or US, then made in China or Malaysia for a world market. I suppose the stuff designed to be manufactured and built here would be more likely to use imperial bearings, but that doesn't include a lot of consumer-grade things, in my life experience.

But I'm totally busted. I made up a bunch of crap in a counter argument.   :-[
tooki:

--- Quote from: angrybird on March 01, 2020, 12:23:10 am ---
--- Quote from: KL27x on March 01, 2020, 12:17:50 am ---
--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on February 29, 2020, 11:53:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on February 29, 2020, 09:13:19 pm --- Yes, let’s take everything that’s non-metric and put it in the trash. That should free up lots of space in museums and older cities. Tear down everything that’s not metric!

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Do you see the light?

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You haven't. You are perpetuating the problem you are crusading against. You're the one who restored this old drill rather than properly disposing of this imperial garbage. You cling to an old drill that can be replaced for under $20.00. But you want Americans to throw away a lot more.

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I would give him respect for fixing an old drill...  I've gone through at least half a dozen china drills (dewalt, milwaukee, and an off brand or two) in the past 10-15 years, meanwhile my 80's black and decker still runs like a champ... It's rather ridiculous!

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You missed the point: if not for the US's "backwardness", he would not have been able to repair it at all. He wants to eat his cake and have it, too.
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