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GK:

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--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on November 23, 2019, 08:01:48 pm ---
--- Quote ---Not to mention the cognitive dissonance in believing that other countries are fully metric. As I and others have explained repeatedly, there is literally no place on earth that is fully metric.
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Your assertion is corroborated by USMA, the US Metric Association:

"Metric is used predominantly in the rest of the world, with the US being the only major holdout."

It's not a zero-self-awareness dumb that's saying that. It's a US-based institution.

So the US works daily to disrupt the desire of the whole world to have just one system of units, accuses the world of not being fully metric, without mentioning that the US themselves are precisely the root cause of that evil, and then claim to be metric because the inch is based on the meter.
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I have no idea what you're babbling about. And you clearly had no idea what I'm talking about. So here it is again worded differently: NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS 100% METRIC. Even the "fully" metric countries use non-metric stuff here and there. I provided examples in an earlier comment. (For example, automotive tires actually use a mix of metric and inches.)
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To make it a little easier for you two to understand each other I changed part of your debating buddies post to bold. Funny you should bring up tires. We are stuck with the mixed units for wheels and tires because of the fact that the worlds largest economy and historically largest single market for wheels and tires had written the imperial units for rim diameter into law:

"European tire manufacturers were able to use metric dimensions for tires except for the diameter which was written into previous US law to be measured in inches. Thus, all European manufacturers needed to do to get into the vast US market, which did not produce radial tires at that time, was to change one number on the tire into inches to meet US law."
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-03/985878609.Sh.r.html

There are numerous imperial measures and standards that we still use today due to legacy reasons. Some completely trivial and probably mostly out of nostalgia, like Pints at the bar.  Even had the US gone metric to the same extent 40-50 years ago as did us down under along with the rest of the civilized world we'd surely still be stuck with some. Rim diameter might even be one of them, I really don't know or give a toss, but there is a whole plethora that we wouldn't have to still deal with. I doubt that there has been a single month in my productive adult life in which I did not have to deal with the inconvenience and tooling of imperial measures in one way or the other simply because of contemporary machinery, componentry and/or scientific equipment manufactured in America.

That in and of itself (regardless of the relevance that you might or might not personally give it) is a continued impost that America imposes upon the rest of the globalized economy that would barely now exist had America metricated to the same extent that we did, though I couldn't care to argue the historical and ongoing cost of this inconvenience in momentary terms - I think the true value would be inestimable. Now anyone out there so inclined can indulge in their right to deny this reality and tell me that my occasional cursing over the situation makes me anti-American, but likewise I can and will reserve my right to take any such example of a person as seriously on this point as the guy who thinks that the 5G cellular network is a NAZI weapon of genocide that is making cancerous tumors grow in his arse.

When metrication effectively began in Australia (and similarly in other nations apart from the US) our economy was far more invested in foreign trade as a percentage of GPD than was that of the US. Couple that with the fact that the majority of our exports (~75% in '66) were to countries that were already metric or in the process of converting to metric, it simply made economic sense to standardize as much as practical on this superior system of measures; we decided that we couldn't afford the insularity of the US and it was taken for granted that the short term expense of conversion was far outweighed by the long term benefit. Given the comparative independence of the US at the time, I doubt that the situation could have ever evolved into something much different or better than what we have today. That doesn't mean that I think the brightest decisions were made either.



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--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on November 23, 2019, 08:01:48 pm ---Gimme a break!

Who are you trying to fool?

I may be dumb. But not that dumb.

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Indeed, you're actually proving to be far dumber...


You see the world as being binary, everything falling neatly into right and wrong, and that's just not reality, man...

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Pot, kettle.................

tooki:
If you think I (who you failed to quote properly) am breaking things into black and white, without gray, then you have utterly failed to understand my point, which is that nothing is quite so cut and dried.

I didn’t dispute that the US is the major holdout. What I dispute is the arrogant claims that the rest of the world is 100% metric, which isn’t true. Fine, let’s forget tires; I honestly didn’t know the history of them. But that doesn’t invalidate the truth that no place is 100% metric. Inch pipe threads are common, for example. But I don’t need to explain this again, it’s been discussed and explained in detail earlier in this thread.

KL27x:
GK,

In so many words, could you say this IS kinda sorta mostly about the screws to you?  :-//

Lots of other countries all changed, but now there's only one imperial. So other than the fasteners, the single biggest reason you guys benefitted from changing is gone. There's no confusion over what a lb or an inch are anymore.  :-//

If it's the fasteners, that's cool. Yeah, I think it sucks. But I think your country probably uses imperial fasteners, too? I am curious what's all the stuff you are repairing that was made in America. All the stuff I use is made in China. :)

Tepe:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 12:12:03 am ---NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS 100% METRIC. Even the "fully" metric countries use non-metric stuff here and there.

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Curiously it tends to be "your" non-metric stuff that creep in (like inches for the sizes of TV screens), not our own pre-metric units.

Tepe:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 10:49:54 am ---Inch pipe threads are common, for example.

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But it is your inches, not our old ones...

Our inch, for example, was 26.1545 mm.

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