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why is the US not Metric
boffin:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on November 23, 2019, 10:28:51 pm ---
Is it actually a problem that metric and imperial co-exist?
It doesn't seem any different than dealing with ancient measurements elsewhere (e.g. when cooking: tablespoons, teaspoons, cups, ...) which can be more convenient in real world usage than an exact number of milliliters... in fact, mixed units are common when cooking. (e.g. 600g flour + 435ml water + 1.5tsp yeast + 1tsp salt + 2tbsp honey to make bread dough).
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Interestingly, the new season of [US Based] "Good Eats" appears to be mostly metric.
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on November 23, 2019, 10:28:51 pm ---
Is it actually a problem that metric and imperial co-exist?
It doesn't seem any different than dealing with ancient measurements elsewhere (e.g. when cooking: tablespoons, teaspoons, cups, ...) which can be more convenient in real world usage than an exact number of milliliters... in fact, mixed units are common when cooking. (e.g. 600g flour + 435ml water + 1.5tsp yeast + 1tsp salt + 2tbsp honey to make bread dough).
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Tablespoons are just that. Somewhat useful when most kitchen scales don't do small measurements well but not a fixed small amount. Similar to a pinch. I strongly doubt people who measure everything else in grams and millilitres use anything else than an actual tablespoon.
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on November 25, 2019, 04:25:54 pm ---Tablespoons are just that.
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Not quite. If you use proper cook's measuring spoons, vis:
where you can level off the measured item with the back of a knife, so you're not into 'level teaspoon, rounded teaspoon, heaped teaspoon' territory, then a tablespoon is 15ml, a dessert spoon 10m and a teaspoon 5ml.
CatalinaWOW:
--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on November 25, 2019, 02:48:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 10:49:54 am ---What I dispute is the arrogant claims that the rest of the world is 100% metric, which isn’t true.
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The rest of the world IS 100% metric and you know that's true. You can hear echos of imperial or customary units "here and there", but you know darn well that imperial outside the US is DEAD.
The confidence of the world in metric units is such that many countries banned imperial by force of law, in other words, imperial is illegal.
Imperial has no future whatsoever, so do not maintain any illusions about it.
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Yep. Dead. Dead as it can be dead.
The attached picture shows my relatively new made in China portable electronic scale. The clever button allows you to select units. There are four choices. In this order. Pounds, jin (a traditional chinese unit), ounces and kilograms.
In most of the world measurement systems are a tool, not a religion. I have found three of those four unit selections useful in different circumstances. It hasn't strained my intellect to push the button, or to read the annunciator to see which unit is being displayed. Others may find this more challenging.
tooki:
--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on November 25, 2019, 02:48:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 25, 2019, 10:49:54 am ---What I dispute is the arrogant claims that the rest of the world is 100% metric, which isn’t true.
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The rest of the world IS 100% metric and you know that's true. You can hear echos of imperial or customary units "here and there", but you know darn well that imperial outside the US is DEAD.
The confidence of the world in metric units is such that many countries banned imperial by force of law, in other words, imperial is illegal.
Imperial has no future whatsoever, so do not maintain any illusions about it.
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:-DD
I and others already provided you with proof that non-metric measures are still in active use in so-called metric countries. It’s not 100%, and likely never will be, unless you propose leveling all existing structures to make sure no inch threaded pipes remain in use, because otherwise inch thread spare parts will have to remain available. Similarly, all pre-metric objects will need to be scrapped, lest non-metric parts be made available.
Oh yeah, and commercial aviation is a thing. With few exceptions (again, already named in prior posts), all commercial aviation uses nautical miles for distance and feet for altitude.
So for you to claim that the rest of the world is 100% metric is demonstrably, provably wrong.
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