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Zero999:

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There is nothing government can do that is better than what private industry can do.  Nationalizing anything is always a huge mistake!
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Healthcare

The US has demonstrably worse Health Care than almost all other 1st world (government run) healthcare systems; as I mentioned; but you knew that already as you read my post.

Let's look at the G7; and use the two most common measures of the effectiveness of healthcare systems.

Life Expectancy (CIA World factbook 2017)
Japan 2nd
Italy 14th
Canada 17th
France 18th
Germany 34th
UK 35th
USA 57th

Infant Mortality (World Bank)
Japan 6th
Italy 10th
Germany 19th
France 22nd
UK 24th
Canada 28th
USA 32nd

and now compare that to costs

yet the US spends the most per capita on healthcare (OECD 2017)
United States — $10,209 - 1st
Germany — $5,728 - 5th
France — $4,902 - 11th
Canada — $4,826 - 12th
Japan — $4,717 - 14th
United Kingdom — $4,246 - 17th
Italy — $3,542 - 20th


Coming dead last while spending twice as much is hardly a case for "There's nothing the government can do better than private industry"

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But you never ask why?  How about the fact that infant mortality for 'crack babies' is included in the stats.  How about the fact that drug abusers are also included.  Life expectancy?  Well that includes drug abusers as well.

Somewhere there needs to be a way to exclude overdoses or gang warfare from impacting the stats.  Health care isn't the reason of the 40,000 gun related deaths, 60% were suicide, 37% were murder and 3% other.  Yet these count toward mortality rate.  We have about 50,000 suicides per year but this will overlap with other stats.  Then too, 10% of our population are drug users.

We have a liberal society run amok.  Hopefully the pendulum will swing back one day.

The healthcare itself is excellent.  It's what is included in the stats that would lead anyone to think we are substandard.

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Where did you get those ideas from?  It sounds like the kind of bollocks found in tabloids and crappy clickbait sites.

A quick Google reveals, the leading causes of death in the US are heart disease and cancer, not drugs, guns or suicide. No doubt a huge number of these deaths are down to the US's poor healthcare system.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db328.htm

No mention of maternal drug use was mentioned under infant mortality, so I suspect it isn't as greater factor as you think.
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternalinfanthealth/infantmortality.htm

Healthcare in the US is only excellent, if one can afford it.

EDIT:
If a country is doing something widely regarded to be silly/wrong/incompetant then expect to be bashed for it on the Internet. I accept the UK gets bashed a lot over Brexit and rightly so.

tooki:
Totally agree with you, Zero999.

I’ll add that poverty-related “lifestyle” issues like underinsurance, stress levels, obesity and food deserts also make a huge difference in US health outcomes. It turns out that educated, financially secure societies have better outcomes than poorly educated, financially shaky ones. (And in USA, true financial security is something enjoyed by fairly few, since there are essentially no safety nets.)

KL27x:
^FYI, no one dies of starvation in US. Our safety nets are there. They are just not as dignified and glamorous as most other first world countries. And there is a very good reason for that.

Americans are beyond moral shame. Give them a decent option of being a parasite, and they are happy to take it and raise families this way. W/e critera one must meet to qualify for the system, that information spreads. And people take a bus across the country to get to this state/system where they have heard people are getting hooked in. This is their new goal in life, and it becomes a lifestye for many.

boffin:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 16, 2019, 06:37:07 pm ---Where did you get those ideas from?  It sounds like the kind of bollocks found in tabloids and crappy clickbait sites.

A quick Google reveals, the leading causes of death in the US are heart disease and cancer, not drugs, guns or suicide. No doubt a huge number of these deaths are down to the US's poor healthcare system.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db328.htm

No mention of maternal drug use was mentioned under infant mortality, so I suspect it isn't as greater factor as you think.
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternalinfanthealth/infantmortality.htm

Healthcare in the US is only excellent, if one can afford it.

EDIT:
If a country is doing something widely regarded to be silly/wrong/incompetant then expect to be bashed for it on the Internet. I accept the UK gets bashed a lot over Brexit and rightly so.

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Don't forget that all those mass shootings didn't really occur. They're all deep-state provider actors.  At least that's what the (non-liberal) media are claiming.
:-)




KL27x:
Mass shootings occur. But as Zero999 pointed out, this is not a significant cause of mortality. It's a cost in human life, certainly, but it doesn't even make a blip on the radar.

There are something like 35-40 active serial killers in America right now, too.

What was this thread about, again? Oh yeah. How changing road signs will be such a great investment with an amazing return. The murders will stop and the healtcare will improve. And the 1% will donate all their money to Saint Jude.

Posts like yours, Boffin, make it so obvious what the thread is really about for the majority of the international community that is partaking. If I was bsfeechannel, I would call this a strawman argument. But I know what the word means.

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