Why not ban AWG

[Phaedrus]

Back in the day in Oz,we could buy our beer in "glasses","middies","schooners" & "pots".

No barrels?

No, just 55 gallon drums.

[Kryoclasm]

Ohh well, given the super huge unfathomable debts of the US and the fact that > 34% is owned by metric nations, I predict a reform sometime in the next decade when that number sneaks above 50% and the US becomes new territory of China, Japan, Brazil etc. 

I hate to agree with you, but you are right.

Can anyone really understand 17 TRILLION? 

1.7 × 10¹³

That's the same as...

68,000,000 : Houses @ $250,000 each
364,555Kg of GOLD @ $1,322 per ounce.
283,333 : Gulfstream 5 business Jets @ $60,000,000 each

Wrap that around you brain.... that is how much DEBT we have.   

Oh, yesterday our wonderful president signed a bill that will get us another "credit card" so we pay our bills" 

[Excavatoree]

Ohh well, given the super huge unfathomable debts of the US and the fact that > 34% is owned by metric nations, I predict a reform sometime in the next decade when that number sneaks above 50% and the US becomes new territory of China, Japan, Brazil etc. 

I hate to agree with you, but you are right.

Can anyone really understand 17 TRILLION? 

1.7 × 10¹³

That's the same as...

68,000,000 : Houses @ $250,000 each
364,555Kg of GOLD @ $1,322 per ounce.
283,333 : Gulfstream 5 business Jets @ $60,000,000 each

Wrap that around you brain.... that is how much DEBT we have.   

Oh, yesterday our wonderful president signed a bill that will get us another "credit card" so we pay our bills" 

Michael Bloomberg says that the US government can borrow an infinite amount of money - so all the debt fear mongers are wrong.

We shouldn't, however, be able to buy a large soda.  17 trillion in debt?  No problem.  25 oz soda?  Big problem. 

Sorry, I suppose that should be 740 ml soda? big problem.

[ampdoctor]

Michael Bloomberg says that the US government can borrow an infinite amount of money - so all the debt fear mongers are wrong.

We shouldn't, however, be able to buy a large soda.  17 trillion in debt?  No problem.  25 oz soda?  Big problem. 

Sorry, I suppose that should be 740 ml soda? big problem.

Nope, you're wrong. It'll be 34 trillion in 8 years. It's increasing exponentially. The only unit of measure that's going to count in the near future is the troy oz...wherever the hell that imperial unit came from.

[Kjelt]

Can anyone really understand 17 TRILLION? 
1.7 × 10¹³   

There are aprox. 315 million people living in the US? Then each person has a debt of $55000.-
I heard how much interest the US pays per day and that was almost 10 times more (each day) then our government is fighting over the coming year to save on their expenses. Weird world.

[casper.bang]

Michael Bloomberg says that the US government can borrow an infinite amount of money - so all the debt fear mongers are wrong.

Classical viewpoint from a remaining super power. While the US$ is a reference point, and the US has thus held a unique position being able to print and borrow money like no other, it does not come entirely without consequences. For one thing, debt holders want larger interest payments to compensate for what they perceive as an increasing risk that they won't be repaid (no shit Sherlock!). Secondly, this is amplified by the decline of the US$, meaning it's loosing its leading position as a reference. The world has a lot at stake in the continued stability of the American economy, but as US manufactures move more and more business to Mexico, Brazil and other emerging markets, it's not hard to imagine China getting upset and further raising interests or demanding payments. The supposedly richest country and greatest democracy in the world can't even get their own economy and house in order. It's thought-provoking how it has come to this and that (at least some in) the US find this a viable and responsible strategy for such a long time.

[Rerouter]

based on the chart, what happen in 2001? it looked to be stabilizing around 1995-2000

[GeoffS]

We're wandering a long way from AWG here 

[AlfBaz]

We're wandering a long way from AWG here 

Don't see how, AWG American Wasteful Governance seems right on topic

[BravoV]

We're wandering a long way from AWG here 

Don't see how, AWG American Wasteful Governance seems right on topic

    

Ingenious work  , now GeoffS doesn't have any excuse to lock or censor this thread anymore. LOL ...    

[GeoffS]

We're wandering a long way from AWG here 

Don't see how, AWG American Wasteful Governance seems right on topic

    

Ingenious work  , now GeoffS doesn't have any excuse to lock or censor this thread anymore. LOL ...    

I'm a moderator, I don't NEED a reason 

[BravoV]

Damn, I forgot about that, ok, you win ! 

[vk6zgo]

Back in the day in Oz,we could buy our beer in "glasses","middies","schooners" & "pots".

No barrels?

No, just 55 gallon drums.

That'd be 44 gallon drums in real gallons!

[SeanB]

GeoffS, I see the post count for you is now 777 posts, very nice there.

actually at work I have a wire size gauge that has all wire sizes from about 20 SWG to 0SWG.

[IanB]

Ay! Let's go down pub and get some 473 milliliters!

Hmm, even in Yorkshire they speak English. It's "Let's go down to the pub". Now in the local manner of speech you might have to listen hard to catch the abbreviated sound of the word "the" in that sentence, but it's still there. Typically you might write it as "Let's go down to t'pub." Phonetically, the sound of t' is like a glottal stop.

[G7PSK]

I found the answer to wire gauges, get a slide rule thingy, like this one. I have actually had it for years but just found it again at the back of a draw.

[Anks]

They have the gear stick the next to the driving wheel and there massive v8's somehow produce less BHP that a Nissan micra.

Too long in the tooth the imperial system will be around for along time yet.

[nukie]

I don't mind measurements in decimals i can tell between a 3mm and a 3.3mm drill bit or a 0.5" drill bit but I can't do fractions its mind screwing. I can't do miles or lbs. I can do Km but not Kg I hardly ever get weight right by feel. It's really down to what you are used to.

And AWG is fine I like it as a standard for wires. It's simple and effective. As long as there is a conversion chart I see no problem with standards. It's almost like language without all the customs.

[Bloch]

And AWG is fine I like it as a standard for wires. It's simple and effective. As long as there is a conversion chart I see no problem with standards. It's almost like language without all the customs.

Ok so do you want all the non English speaking eevblog members to write in our own language ?

Yes now i see it .... much easier and better 

[casper.bang]

I don't mind measurements in decimals i can tell between a 3mm and a 3.3mm drill bit or a 0.5" drill bit but I can't do fractions its mind screwing. I can't do miles or lbs. I can do Km but not Kg I hardly ever get weight right by feel. It's really down to what you are used to.

And AWG is fine I like it as a standard for wires. It's simple and effective. As long as there is a conversion chart I see no problem with standards. It's almost like language without all the customs.

Som Bloch pointerer neget fint, så har du nok problemer med at forstå denne tekst fordi den er udtrykt i et andet sprog end den internationale standard. Konverteringer er fyldt med fejl, jeg gætter på at Google og Bing oversættere vil have deres hyr med denne danske tekst.

[nukie]

My point is units and measurements is a lot easier to convert than languages. I'm not saying that multi standards is good but it is not so bad that it must be ban. Of course it will be good that everyone communicates in the same way but the perfect world isnt going to happen. Btw I grew up in the metric world but I try to embrace imperial system as much as I could which is not easy.

[IanB]

Som Bloch pointerer neget fint, så har du nok problemer med at forstå denne tekst fordi den er udtrykt i et andet sprog end den internationale standard. Konverteringer er fyldt med fejl, jeg gætter på at Google og Bing oversættere vil have deres hyr med denne danske tekst.

Google translate suggests "neget" should be "noget".

It also thinks "hyr" is wrong, but it doesn't have a better suggestion...

[W8LV]

I have always found it a puzzlement that we haven't switched to metric in the U.S, also recalling being taught the Metric System in the '70's and being told we were going to switch. I HATE goofy, goofy things like 5/8ths wrenches. But we buy pop in two litre bottles. "Not quite" Twelve gallons of gas for my (metric) Toyota Prius. Why not just call it 25 litres and be done with it? There IS a switch on my dash that converts the speedometer to kilometres.. Helpful when driving in Canada...but alas, the odometer can't be switched from miles. Ugggh. Pounds and Fahrenheit? Goofy concepts, for sure! But Nautical Miles "seem" to make sense, when you figure it into the degrees of a circle in regards to degrees of Latitude. But then again, we have Daylight Savings time, and I am sure in spite of it, Greenwich NEVER gets closer to, or further away from us just because it's Winter. Or Summer.
Maybe we should go with Coordinated Swatch Time!
;-)

Best Regards from W8LV in Pickaway County, Ohio, USA.

[Tepe]

Google translate suggests "neget" should be "noget".

It also thinks "hyr" is wrong, but it doesn't have a better suggestion...

"neget" should have been "meget".
"hyr" means difficulty, have a job with.

[Dongulus]

based on the chart, what happen in 2001? it looked to be stabilizing around 1995-2000

G.W. Bush went into office.