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why should i be afraid of AI?
snarkysparky:
News stories are predicting much doom if we don't control aye eye.
I am at a complete loss as to what to be afraid of.
Anyone help me find the fear ?
mendip_discovery:
hmm, depends on the foil hat.
If AI is used for generating fake images, it could allow disinformation to go bonkers.
Using AI to write their doctorates.
SPAM and hacking attempts can be automated and work more effectively.
AI could be used to infiltrate systems especially if the script kiddies start playing with it.
In some cases, people will lose jobs as they can get AI to do the work.
I was concerned a few years ago when they taught a pack of drones to fly through gaps, tie that with a lump of C4 and a good facial recognition system and you could end up with a very good killbot.
Anyway I am going to relax and watch the film Screamers starring Peter Weller.
unknownparticle:
Well humanity has a history of fcuking things up so there is more than a good chance that AI will finally finish us off. At the very least, a lot of jobs will be gone and governments will exploit it to exert even more control over us. The main problem is that by the very definition of AI it will learn exponentially, and it is already able to totally transcend human intelligence, and that is what we know about! So it will have no difficulty in avoiding detection of it's plans to eliminate humans, in fact, by virtue of what is happening in the world right now, it may have already started!
Buriedcode:
Theres lots of click baity articles going around because fear sells, but the only danger I can see is people. Like most dangers with techology, its the application rather than the tech itself. Have more AI controlled automation, then when something goes wrong - who takes responsibility? I'm suspect many are pushing it because its a legal grey area, so companies can avoid responsibility for mistakes - or just blame the company that sold them the AI they abused and put in control of somethign that it shouldn't be.
I'm with mendip, the "danger" as far as I can see is flooding media with fabrications so that actual "evidence" is completely drowned out. It's a boon for celebrities and politicians because they can just claim that videos/audio of them behaving badly was AI generated.
Also note, the many articles about the "dangers of AI" quote people who aren't actually studying or experts that field, but experts in other areas to give them some kind of legitimacy: Even Stephen Hawking was misquoted in talking about it, despite him knowing nothing of AI. And Elon Musk is just a businessman who is bitter about his failed takeover bid of OpanAI :)
--- Quote from: unknownparticle on March 30, 2023, 05:53:45 pm ---The main problem is that by the very definition of AI it will learn exponentially, and it is already able to totally transcend human intelligence, and that is what we know about! So it will have no difficulty in avoiding detection of it's plans to eliminate humans, in fact, by virtue of what is happening in the world right now, it may have already started!
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lol wut. Since when does AI have a defintion that it will "learn exponentially" ? And "totally transcend human intelligence" ? Whats your definition of intelligence then?
mendip_discovery:
--- Quote from: Buriedcode on March 30, 2023, 06:45:17 pm ---Theres lots of click baity articles going around because fear sells, but the only danger I can see is people. Like most dangers with techology, its the application rather than the tech itself. Have more AI controlled automation, then when something goes wrong - who takes responsibility? I'm suspect many are pushing it because its a legal grey area, so companies can avoid responsibility for mistakes - or just blame the company that sold them the AI they abused and put in control of somethign that it shouldn't be.
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Lots of click bait out there. Its the buzzword. I wonder if some are even on social media platforms trying to generate more interest, such as posting stuff on forums. ;-)
IIRC the UK gov has set a team to work on a framework so that there is some accountability, but the fact they can't be held accountable doesn't leave me with much confidence.
--- Quote ---https://www.gov.uk/government/news/self-driving-revolution-to-boost-economy-and-improve-road-safety
The government is today consulting on a ‘safety ambition’ for self-driving vehicles to be as safe as a competent and careful human driver. This ambition would inform standards that vehicles need to meet to be allowed to ‘self-drive’ on the roads, and organisations, such as manufacturers, could face sanctions if standards are not met.
The new laws for the safe rollout of self-driving vehicles by 2025 will be brought forward when parliamentary time allows.
The legislation will build on existing laws, and state that manufacturers are responsible for the vehicle’s actions when self-driving, meaning a human driver would not be liable for incidents related to driving while the vehicle is in control of driving.
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--- Quote ---I'm with mendip, the "danger" as far as I can see is flooding media with fabrications so that actual "evidence" is completely drowned out. It's a boon for celebrities and politicians because they can just claim that videos/audio of them behaving badly was AI generated.
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Snoop Dog "It wasn't me"
I think it will muddy the waters even more. Finding factual information will be a challenge.
--- Quote ---Also note, the many articles about the "dangers of AI" quote people who aren't actually studying or experts that field, but experts in other areas to give them some kind of legitimacy: Even Stephen Hawking was misquoted in talking about it, despite him knowing nothing of AI. And Elon Musk is just a businessman who is bitter about his failed takeover bid of OpanAI :)
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I wonder if there are "Experts" out there like the ones that keep predicting "the worst winter ever" type events and when you look at the site quoted it is just a sham site used to be able to pass the buck on quoting stuff to avoid the legal issue of the media lying. Then you have the YT experts, or worse shock/horror the forum users.
AI is here and there is nowt most of us can do about it. The cat is out of the bag, let us just hope it doesn't maul us.
oh and Elon is just bitter.
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