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voltsandjolts:
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on November 23, 2020, 10:45:47 pm ---What do you think of the proposed redesign?
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Hmm.
I guess with 450 staff on an average salary of 120KUSD, you need to refresh the website at least once a decade, in some vain attempt to look like you are worth the donated money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_salaries
tooki:
--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on July 25, 2021, 11:50:47 am ---
--- Quote from: MrMobodies on November 23, 2020, 10:45:47 pm ---What do you think of the proposed redesign?
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Hmm.
I guess with 450 staff on an average salary of 120KUSD, you need to refresh the website at least once a decade, in some vain attempt to look like you are worth the donated money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_salaries
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Given the sheer scale at which Wikipedia operates, I think their budget is fairly modest. I don't agree with any of the malfeasance you insinuate.
Mark:
--- Quote ---Given the sheer scale at which Wikipedia operates, I think their budget is fairly modest. I don't agree with any of the malfeasance you insinuate.
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Mental right-click and "add to dictionary". ;D
MrMobodies:
Just checking out Wikimedia and I find I got a reply a year late from 2021.
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Wiqquepvymt169bu&topic_showPostId=wj5z6jebkk6dgh46&fromnotif=1#flow-post-wj5z6jebkk6dgh46
--- Quote ---MrMobodies (talkcontribs)
With the new design please be aware that not everybody wants things stuck to the page or over the contents. I find that very distracting and annoying. I class it as spammy behaviour when they are in the way and can't be closed. I find i can't concentrate on the article. I would like to see an option to hide it like a slider, Google maps have one for the side pane. DuckDucko has a setting and Archive.org has a close button which gives me a choice. I have to rely browser extensions to hide/show these things and they don't always restore properly.
Will there be a setting?
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--- Quote ---Reply a year ago
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Overall, we:
Are aware that in such a diverse and tech-savvy group as Wikipedians, there will always be people who dislike a particular feature
* Will build this in MediaWiki which is highly customizable/adjustable anyway. :-+ One "only" needs to know how to adjust something. How to change CSS, or to write a user script, etc.
So I suspect the question isn't really "whether this would be possible" but "how easy this would be for individual users". I'll ask my colleagues
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* Good.
I find nothing diverse about forcing users to have their viewing bombarded by unwanted things that get in the way and serve as a distraction.
I take the same offense as to what malware use to do to my customers back over a decade ago with installing browser toolbars and injecting things over whatever webpage they were looking at.
I hope they keep their word contrary to what I find here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Features/Sticky_Header
--- Quote ---Sticky header
Editing button in the Vector 2022 sticky header.png
We have added an edit button to the sticky header to make access to editing the full page easier :bullshit: (*without requiring scrolling to the top of the page). After testing across a number of wikis, we concluded the following: People were more likely to complete the edits :bullshit: they start using the sticky header in comparison to the edits initiated using other edit buttons on the page.
The edits people started by clicking the edit button in the sticky header, and ultimately published, were reverted less often than those initiated using other edit buttons on the page.
What is our objective?
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I think this sums it up:
--- Quote ---Hypothetically: If you went into a shop on the high street and everytime you go in there you have something stuck in a fixed part of your vision, with the store's logo, and toolbar in the way and distracting and no matter where you look you can't get rid of it until you leave. Now how would you feel? Wouldn't that put you off?
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--- Quote ---People were more likely to complete the edits
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I wonder are they calling their users lazy? that need something stuck constantly whether they want or not.
What do you think?
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