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Will our engineering resources become dominated by Chinese design?
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coppice:

--- Quote from: rstofer on November 17, 2023, 08:18:32 pm ---In the US, the estimated growth in EE jobs is about 15,000 over the next 10 years or about 1,500 new jobs per year.  That kind of number wouldn't make me rush right out and work on a EE degree.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm

We graduate about 28,000 EEs per year and there are about 300,000 EEs working in the field.  Clearly, a large number of EEs should be aging out but the stats don't account for that.

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Is the biggest removal of EEs from the job pool due to retirement, moving out of the industry, or into some pure management role?
Simon:

--- Quote from: coppice on November 17, 2023, 08:25:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: rstofer on November 17, 2023, 08:18:32 pm ---In the US, the estimated growth in EE jobs is about 15,000 over the next 10 years or about 1,500 new jobs per year.  That kind of number wouldn't make me rush right out and work on a EE degree.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm

We graduate about 28,000 EEs per year and there are about 300,000 EEs working in the field.  Clearly, a large number of EEs should be aging out but the stats don't account for that.

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Is the biggest removal of EEs from the job pool due to retirement, moving out of the industry, or into some pure management role?


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Electronics is not sexy anymore, there are countless degrees in other cooler subjects that have people thinking they can do electronics.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: Bicurico on November 17, 2023, 08:22:16 pm ---At the point in time all EU should have already merged into one single country.
Instead our governments are inviting millions of people from middle east, with a totally different and incompatible cultural background.
And worse, instead thriving to be self sufficient, the EU allows everything to be outsourced, mainly to China.
The incompetence of our leaders hurts.

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I'm not worried at all. Zero. The average engineer from the EU is miles better compared to one from China. For the last year I have been trying to get a Chinese firm to implement some really simple changes in the software of their core product. What should have been 2 week task is still ongoing. And this is not my first rodeo trying to get Chinese engineers to make a decent piece of software.
coppercone2:

--- Quote from: Simon on November 17, 2023, 08:42:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on November 17, 2023, 08:25:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: rstofer on November 17, 2023, 08:18:32 pm ---In the US, the estimated growth in EE jobs is about 15,000 over the next 10 years or about 1,500 new jobs per year.  That kind of number wouldn't make me rush right out and work on a EE degree.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm

We graduate about 28,000 EEs per year and there are about 300,000 EEs working in the field.  Clearly, a large number of EEs should be aging out but the stats don't account for that.

--- End quote ---
Is the biggest removal of EEs from the job pool due to retirement, moving out of the industry, or into some pure management role?


--- End quote ---

Electronics is not sexy anymore, there are countless degrees in other cooler subjects that have people thinking they can do electronics.

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what you are looking to say is that there is alot of people out there they finally figured out through youtube how to make a microcontroller  system with a spec that is 'able to run in board room for ~30 minutes'.
Smokey:

--- Quote from: Simon on November 17, 2023, 08:42:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on November 17, 2023, 08:25:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: rstofer on November 17, 2023, 08:18:32 pm ---In the US, the estimated growth in EE jobs is about 15,000 over the next 10 years or about 1,500 new jobs per year.  That kind of number wouldn't make me rush right out and work on a EE degree.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm

We graduate about 28,000 EEs per year and there are about 300,000 EEs working in the field.  Clearly, a large number of EEs should be aging out but the stats don't account for that.

--- End quote ---
Is the biggest removal of EEs from the job pool due to retirement, moving out of the industry, or into some pure management role?


--- End quote ---

Electronics is not sexy anymore, there are countless degrees in other cooler subjects that have people thinking they can do electronics.

--- End quote ---

I know a few good EEs that moved on to be patent lawyers.  Way more money.
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