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Offline Terabyte2007

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Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« on: August 08, 2015, 09:00:32 pm »
I must have had a few too many drinks, but I did it and survived! I have upgraded to Windows 10 and so far all of my instrument software seems to work! This was a foolish move, but you only live once! I was really worried about Benchvue but all seems good. All in all, I was surprised how well everything worked after the upgrade.

Anyone else brave enough? Let's hear your story, good or bad!

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2015, 09:07:56 pm »
Same here. Small hickups with wifi and printer/scanner that were easy to resolve.
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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2015, 10:01:11 pm »
What happened with waiting until the first service pack?
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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2015, 10:03:01 pm »
What happened with waiting until the first service pack?

Yeah, that just did'nt happen this time!  :-[
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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2015, 08:33:08 am »
I have updated one desktop and two notebooks, all went fine.  :-// :-+
I think Windows 10 is one of their better ones.. I hated Win 8/8.1, so I went right from Win 7 to 10.
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2015, 10:15:09 pm »
You have given me the confidence to give it a go.  I had already pre-fetched Win 10 and I am going to the "Ok, let's continue" button now.   :scared:
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2015, 06:37:31 pm »
I have upgraded 2 normal pc's (main workstation and laptop) and my virtual machine on my mac - all successful so far.

Windows 10 seems to work great - but I have set all privacy settings to max and disabled CorTina or CorTana or whatever it is called :) It is a bit of a pain uninstalling all the crap like TV & Movies, Sports & XBox - but doable. :) I love the new world clock :) and the money app works pretty well most of the time.
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2015, 01:56:34 am »
Can you Win 10 users check something for me please.

Empty USB stick, freshly formatted in FAT 32 and/or NTFS

Is there a System folder in the root of the drive?
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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2015, 12:10:13 pm »
Can you Win 10 users check something for me please.

Empty USB stick, freshly formatted in FAT 32 and/or NTFS

Is there a System folder in the root of the drive?

No.

I use explorer and selected show hidden item from the view pulldown
Cool, thanks
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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2015, 12:31:45 pm »
Can you Win 10 users check something for me please.

Empty USB stick, freshly formatted in FAT 32 and/or NTFS

Is there a System folder in the root of the drive?

No.

I use explorer and selected show hidden item from the view pulldown

Would not trust it to not hide it still...... Use another OS that can read NTFS to verify.
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2015, 04:24:27 pm »
Having watched a little of CCCen recent proceedings, and listening to Security Now, along with ATT Threattraq, I am left thinking that. After all, remember the Sony rootkit on CD's, which put a parser in that would not reveal any DLL starting with $$, even to the OS, so I naturally had a small desktop file called $$syscanary.dll on the desktop. Kind of there as a reminder. Was just a small text file I renamed.
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2015, 06:00:45 pm »
Sneaky not to show it with explorer. I wonder why.

Because it is Microsoft's nature to be arrogant and deceitful. No matter how many settings you change in Windows 10, you can never be certain of the privacy and security of your data. Microsoft won't care either, because they are given free reign and control over a person's system when anyone agrees to their policies and installs their spyware.
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2015, 06:38:38 pm »
I thought you were paranoid but I tried it with a Linux system and...
You are correct. There IS a folder there with a single file "IndexerVolumeGuid" 76 bytes.   Sneaky not to show it with explorer. I wonder why.

That's not a new feature, that folder & file exist on previous versions of Windows. IndexerVolumeGuid contains a unique ID for the disk volume, so the file search indexer can recognize it.

I can't check on Windows 10 right now, but on 8.1 that file is visible if you turn on the option to see hidden files in Explorer - except the security settings for the folder deny permission to most users. I think that's more a matter of security than "sneakiness".
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2015, 07:01:09 pm »

. So I try the (different) key I wrote down from the COMPUTER --> Properties tab and it doesn't like that either. Groan.

Those are not product license keys, just a thumbprint or something.
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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2015, 08:05:45 pm »
Can you Win 10 users check something for me please.

Empty USB stick, freshly formatted in FAT 32 and/or NTFS

Is there a System folder in the root of the drive?

No.

I use explorer and selected show hidden item from the view pulldown

Would not trust it to not hide it still...... Use another OS that can read NTFS to verify.
I thought you were paranoid but I tried it with a Linux system and...
You are correct. There IS a folder there with a single file "IndexerVolumeGuid" 76 bytes.   Sneaky not to show it with explorer. I wonder why.
I thought you were paranoid but I tried it with a Linux system and...
You are correct. There IS a folder there with a single file "IndexerVolumeGuid" 76 bytes.   Sneaky not to show it with explorer. I wonder why.

That's not a new feature, that folder & file exist on previous versions of Windows. IndexerVolumeGuid contains a unique ID for the disk volume, so the file search indexer can recognize it.

I can't check on Windows 10 right now, but on 8.1 that file is visible if you turn on the option to see hidden files in Explorer - except the security settings for the folder deny permission to most users. I think that's more a matter of security than "sneakiness".
Hmm
Should have checked my dual boot 8.1 too.

Well this persistant USB root folder from Win 10 caused all sorts of grief when trying to install new FW in a DSO the other day.
I hever have this problem with my main OS, Win 7.

Luckily my customer had a XP machine and it saved the day.
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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2015, 09:12:35 pm »
Well I upgraded, no real issues yet.  I had some small utilities that needed to be updated anyway, once updated work fine in Win10. 

I set all the cloud "features" to off during install, still working through how to make sure privacy is best maintained.
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2015, 08:24:04 am »
Why it rejected the COA key is the key (pun intended) question?

Which windows version?

For older versions a retail media can't install an OEM or Volume version and vice versa. Lots of traps there.
 

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Re: Windows 10 and Instrument Software
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2015, 10:10:11 am »
Thats normal behavior - You can do a clean install, when it first activated;

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When you upgrade a Windows 7 or 8.1 system to Windows 10, the installer confirms that you have a “genuine Windows” system installed and activates your computer for use with Windows 10. Note that you don’t actually get a Windows 10 product key — instead, your computer’s hardware is registered with Microsoft’s servers. When you install Windows 10 on that PC again in the future, it will check in with Microsoft’s servers, confirm it’s installed on a registered PC, and automatically activate itself.

If you don’t take advantage of the upgrade process first, this registration will never happen. There’s no way to enter a Windows 7 or 8.1 key into the Windows 10 installer, nor is there some sort of web form that will give you a Windows 10 key if you provide your Windows 7 or 8.1 key. Sorry — you’ll have to upgrade to Windows 10 before you can perform a clean install.
 


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