Windows 10...

[OZ1LQB]

Hi all..
You ask why upgrade to win 10..
I dont know why nobody have a simple answer but in my
case it is because i have my computers for many years and
support for windows ends in 2020 so the change to windows 10
gives me at least 5 more years of support then windows 7..
that gives a bit of extra money to use on ebay 
Claus

[linux-works]

The single biggest thing that concerns me about W10 are the reports that is a 'fluid' platform, and I no longer have control of installation, licensing, etc...  e.g. 10.x will appear when they want, not when I want to update....
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that, right there, is a showstopper for me.

I refuse to run google's chrome for some of the same reasons.  forced upgrades and updates can break things.  NO SYSADMIN TOLERATES THAT!  at corporate, we always have controlled upgrades.  its how sane people manage computers.

treating all non-crop computer owners as idiots may have some benefit (lol) but I'm not willing to dumb myself down just to run a new version of windows.

win7 does 100% of what I need from a MS o/s.  it will be supported for years, it is THE stable platform for MS these days and eye candy is never a reason to reinstall an os and ride the upgrade obstacle course.

fwiw, I don't think windows has much of a long-term future, anyway.  MS is struggling to get people to install new versions and people are not having it, in general.  the curious are installing it, the ones who don't know much about computers may go for it, those buying new systems are forced into it (so its not their choice, exactly) but no one I know who values their time or their compute resources voluntarily left win7.

in a few years, 'cloud shit' will be the norm (big sigh) and the platform you use will be irrelevant.  *aas (anything As A Service) will be the norm and your 'pc' will truly be just a thin client; which is what computing used to offer us about 10-20 yrs ago.  what's old is new again, lol.

so, saying that you are going to win10 for 'long term support' is kind of funny to me.  does not seem prudent, but hey, its your time and your apps. 

[rdl]

There is so much spying capability built in to Windows 10 that I don't think it could ever be trusted even if you think you have it all turned off. But of course, the arrogant, deceitful folks at Microsoft have it all turned on by default.

Coincidentally, Microsoft released a new "Privacy Policy" and "Service Agreement" at nearly the same time as Windows 10, and you had damn well better read all 40+ pages before you even think about switching to Windows 10.

Windows 10 also seems intended to be a first step toward giving Microsoft total control over your computers, much as they do now with their X-Box game system.

I've been a Windows user for 20 years, but Windows 10 will never get installed on anything I own.

[linux-works]

I feel mostly the same way.

in fact, after getting burned by the ftdi-gate (as it were), I disabled all windows updates to my machines.  but I rarely do anything 'online' with windows, I let my linux boxes do all the internet stuff and windows is mostly air-gapped and firewalled.  and I do have backups in case I need them.

yes, the control-freak nature of MS is getting more and more out of hand.  android is a control-freak platform, apple is, too, and win10 just had to follow along.

its sad how, over time, we have come to LOSE control over our own computers to the big corps.

(then again, with the *aas concept, we'll have even less control, as the apps wont' even be locally installable and runnable.  whatever 'they' decide you get to run, that's what you can run and that's it.)

[SL4P]

It's worth noting that the forced updates only apply to the Home edition. If you get Pro you have more control. You can delay updates, or go onto one of the business "tracks" that gives you long term feature stability and only security/bug fixes.

That's good to know if the auto upgrade ever arrives!
I may try the media kit download.
I think it's worth trying before I slam the door without being fully informed- thanks