AF6LJ , I do not feel like giving the Horowitz any more credence in this thread by participating here , i'll certainly agree with most of what you have typed for sure , see i still am on about that looking up and finding is not the real proof and absolutely no one seems to be poking around in the right spots down here .
Also the other included debates? of just how sinister Alien actually are not compared to the they be good and saving the planet/human race side and then the 3rd side of they don't exist at all and the 4th side of G_D will save everything and the 5th side like the 5th element movie , a character out of times past before Bc or the common era to my understanding pointed all that out with a comment of something like "What one thinks hears or see's is not the real world , the world is a illusion" and many other sayings , and it's last dying words were something like "What more do you want" to whoever was there waiting (probably a Parasite) .
I'll be straight here , all those bastards knew about them BUT did not actually say (as they also knew future writings to come) that Nasty Lying Dirty Manipulating Murdering Alien Filth are here at Earth , Unhuman , that's the issue i deal with with a lot of those so called past bullshit profits .
It seems Nostradamus got close but like all or most they get "changed" , others like Socrates and he had to Die (look what it was actually talking about with a now different view) , and way way back All the Time over and over , History has been manipulated to be different imo .
So , i'm out and be hangin about .