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http://www.computerworld.com/article/2906810/microsoft-seeds-windows-7-81-pcs-with-windows-10-upgrade-nag-notices.html

I caught that one last week, and I just got todays update. There's a non-security update that says it "enables you to upgrade from Windows 7 to a later version of Windows". Yeah, like you really need a windows update to do that.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2015, 02:02:56 am »
Lmao Microsoft sure is desperate to try to get the win8 market share up eh.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2015, 02:08:57 am »
I'm guessing today's update has something to do with enabling upgrading to Windows 10 by way of Windows Update instead of installing from a DVD or flash drive. I'm just always suspicious of Microsoft. Unlike Windows 7, I will be waiting a while before even considering Windows 10. Too much fud at the moment.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2015, 02:27:12 am »
One of these updates will include some sort of a microsoft only virus that will disable all microsoft operating systems below windows 10, forcing everyone on the planet to go out immediately and purchase Windows 10.  I could see it happening. 
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2015, 03:13:11 am »
One of the reasons for this is Microsoft is offering Windows 10 upgrade for free for the first year for Win 7 and Win 8 users.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2015, 05:30:07 am »
How does Microsoft plan to fix all the machines they FUBAR with the Win10 update?  Great fun ahead....
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 06:31:50 am »
Kind of reminds me of when they had that "genuine advantage" update for XP.  That broke a lot of installations including legit ones.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 06:54:02 am »
Oh great. That's going to be fun. We have 90 windows 8.1 machines so will have to block that update.

Excuse the rant...

I really don't want the new Microsoft crap. Its all about turning their platform to a store model and shafting everyone for lock in via subscription models and at that point the end users lose (us). To add some perspective, my day job is software architecture on their platform and literally everyone is jumping ship at the moment. No one here is renewing any certs and we're moving away from them. There is a vocal minority[1] that is all over them which appears to consume certain online communities but people have had enough now. Also I don't think that people realise what they're doing to the enterprise customers in the background. Someone is paying for the cock up that was win8: us. Our SQL licensing costs quadrupled to £180,000 (!) to upgrade from SQL2008 to 2014 due to licensing model changes.

That was enough to push us over the edge and FreeBSD/postgres is being rolled out.

If you milk your cows too hard...

[1] some suspect shills after MS got caught red handed doing this with their Xbox community.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 07:24:12 am »
Yeah, I think offering Windows 10 for free is primarily a diversionary tactic and when it's all said and done will likely turn out to have been just another a con job. Microsoft really wants to turn Windows into a locked down, service-centric, subscription based eco-system. To do that they have to get everyone using Windows 10. I hope they shoot themselves in the foot. Again.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 07:41:47 am »
So they're planning to tell you you can get Windows 10 for free, you don't know exactly how they're going to do it but you're whining about it anyway in advance? If Apple did exactly this you'd be going on about how great they were.
 

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2015, 07:44:09 am »
Thanks for this info! Pity most electronics software uses Windows.  :(
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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2015, 07:49:25 am »
So they're planning to tell you you can get Windows 10 for free, you don't know exactly how they're going to do it but you're whining about it anyway in advance? If Apple did exactly this you'd be going on about how great they were.

Actually no. Apple fanfares to everyone about how their new software was carved from Jesus' sandals and how much a new paradigm it all is and its prettier than a pretty thing from planet sickening, then proceed to screw up the updates shafting your devices for 6 months, never acknowledge it for a second and tell you that you're just holding it wrong and that you should be worshipping Jonny Ive's farts for the design churned out by armies of underpaid slaves.

Only reddit and the verve have worship cultures.

I'm not sure why people get the whole us vs them thing. They're all as bad as each other. In fact its a game of chess finding out the least crap platform every few years.

I've actually given up now and avoid anything platform specific like the plague.
 

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Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2015, 07:53:37 am »
So they're planning to tell you you can get Windows 10 for free, you don't know exactly how they're going to do it but you're whining about it anyway in advance? If Apple did exactly this you'd be going on about how great they were.

If Apple installed a security update via Software Update that made a nagware pop up appear trying to get you to update to the latest release, the OS X community would be up in arms about it, yes.

As it stands, when a new major version of OS X comes out, the App Store will make a notification appear *once* letting you know.

If Windows Update itself simply told you "Windows 10 is free for existing Windows customers, click here to upgrade." I don't think there would be an issue. It's the fact it installs a separate update to do this outside of WU, without telling you what it does, that has people shitting masonry.


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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2015, 07:59:20 am »

So they're planning to tell you you can get Windows 10 for free, you don't know exactly how they're going to do it but you're whining about it anyway in advance? If Apple did exactly this you'd be going on about how great they were.

Actually no. Apple fanfares to everyone about how their new software was carved from Jesus' sandals and how much a new paradigm it all is and its prettier than a pretty thing from planet sickening, then proceed to screw up the updates shafting your devices for 6 months, never acknowledge it for a second and tell you that you're just holding it wrong and that you should be worshipping Jonny Ive's farts for the design churned out by armies of underpaid slaves.

Only reddit and the verve have worship cultures.

I'm not sure why people get the whole us vs them thing. They're all as bad as each other. In fact its a game of chess finding out the least crap platform every few years.

I've actually given up now and avoid anything platform specific like the plague.

Have you actually smelt Ive's farts though? It's like the breath of a million cute puppies while simultaneously getting you higher than the purest nitrous oxide.


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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2015, 08:11:20 am »
If Windows Update itself simply told you "Windows 10 is free for existing Windows customers, click here to upgrade." I don't think there would be an issue. It's the fact it installs a separate update to do this outside of WU, without telling you what it does, that has people shitting masonry.

The method is fine but I think we're shitting masonry (a term I rather like - thank you)  because...

Every idiot out there is going to click it like they click every virus installer UAC prompt, click every yes please and assume every banner advert is going to give them something free. Then after 3 hours of their economy ADSL data plan being used up until it dumps to 56k modem speeds, bam, oh my copy of excel 95 that they've been holding on to since 1995 has exploded violently and they can't get to their football score spreadsheet. Next think you know, my phone starts ringing because everyone in my family knows "I'm in IT", even if I just cleaned the IT department's toilets, a role I wish I did, inviting themselves over to waste my time fixing their rancid economy Dell laptop which turns off if you wiggle the power connector, the battery is flat, it smells of nicotine, the CR2032 is flat too meaning you have to set the time every time you turn it on or windows won't do anything,they keys don't go down due to the amount of biscuit crumbs in it and is full of animal porn, spyware and variants of Candy Crush Saga.

And they expect my wife to cook for them. I will boil them up some excrement and serve that and see how they feel.

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2015, 09:22:26 am »

If Windows Update itself simply told you "Windows 10 is free for existing Windows customers, click here to upgrade." I don't think there would be an issue. It's the fact it installs a separate update to do this outside of WU, without telling you what it does, that has people shitting masonry.

The method is fine but I think we're shitting masonry (a term I rather like - thank you)  because...

Every idiot out there is going to click it like they click every virus installer UAC prompt, click every yes please and assume every banner advert is going to give them something free. Then after 3 hours of their economy ADSL data plan being used up until it dumps to 56k modem speeds, bam, oh my copy of excel 95 that they've been holding on to since 1995 has exploded violently and they can't get to their football score spreadsheet. Next think you know, my phone starts ringing because everyone in my family knows "I'm in IT", even if I just cleaned the IT department's toilets, a role I wish I did, inviting themselves over to waste my time fixing their rancid economy Dell laptop which turns off if you wiggle the power connector, the battery is flat, it smells of nicotine, the CR2032 is flat too meaning you have to set the time every time you turn it on or windows won't do anything,they keys don't go down due to the amount of biscuit crumbs in it and is full of animal porn, spyware and variants of Candy Crush Saga.

And they expect my wife to cook for them. I will boil them up some excrement and serve that and see how they feel.

 :D

That's a good point. That used to be my life, as well, until I drilled it into everyone's heads that I would be happy to fix their computers, assuming the problem wasn't caused by them. If they did something stupid and installed a bunch of adware, I'd charge them half my normal hourly rate to fix it. (Everyone gets one freebie a year.)

You'd be surprised how quickly the calls stopped coming after that!

I also ended up making a PDF with illustrated pictures showing how to spot those web ads that purport to be Windows dialog boxes and the importance of reading what an installer was actually installing. Between that an encouraging them to email me before downloading something suspicious; and providing a bunch of the guys (and several of the girls) with safe free porn sites to visit, it helped a lot.

The other half I just switched to Macs. XD


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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2015, 02:10:12 pm »
Before "shitting bricks", does anyone KNOW what this update actually DOES, or is it just wild conjecture?!
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2015, 02:38:52 pm »
XP works for me and isn't a locked-down anti-user OS.
 

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2015, 02:51:02 pm »
Before "shitting bricks", does anyone KNOW what this update actually DOES, or is it just wild conjecture?!

It just confirms how desperate Microsoft is. Plenty of people (including me) wouldn't 'upgrade' to Windows 8 even if it were free. Microsoft feeling they need to make Windows 10 free doesn't give me much confidence that I will want to 'upgrade' to that either.

Some not very computer literate friends recently had an old PC running XP die. After looking at replacements supplied with Win 8 they bought a Mac.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2015, 03:12:08 pm »
Before "shitting bricks", does anyone KNOW what this update actually DOES, or is it just wild conjecture?!

Of course we do.  It's described in the link in the first post.  Want to see the contents of that .xml file?  That update installed itself on my VM and I didn't notice.

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?>
<CONFIG>
  <!--inbox config-->
  <VERSION>1</VERSION>
  <AuTargetSetting>2</AuTargetSetting>
  <CompatExpiryTime>45</CompatExpiryTime>
  <GlobalAdTimeOut>30</GlobalAdTimeOut>
  <OnlineAdUrl>https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=526874&amp;</OnlineAdUrl>
  <!--Relative path to download folder for main html file-->
  <OfflineAppUrl>index.html</OfflineAppUrl>
  <MinAppraiserUpgradeExperience>Green</MinAppraiserUpgradeExperience>
  <!--pre-req temp disabled-->
  <AppraiserPrereq>true</AppraiserPrereq>
  <DownloadPrereq>true</DownloadPrereq>
  <EnableDomainJoined>false</EnableDomainJoined>
  <EnableEnterpriseSku>false</EnableEnterpriseSku>
  <Telemetry BaseURL="http://g.bing.com/GWX/">
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    <xmlLocation>TelemetryStore.xml</xmlLocation>
    <honorCeip>true</honorCeip>
  </Telemetry>
  <NonCeipSetting>GwxMarkersOnly</NonCeipSetting>
  <AdWindowSizes>
    <S>
      <x>350</x>
      <y>160</y>
    </S>
    <M>
      <x>320</x>
      <y>210</y>
    </M>
    <L>
      <x>480</x>
      <y>320</y>
    </L>
  </AdWindowSizes>
  <AppWindowSize>
    <x>800</x>
    <y>492</y>
  </AppWindowSize>
  <Filters>
    <Filter>
      <Phase>None</Phase>
      <triggers>
      </triggers>
    </Filter>
  </Filters>
  <Phases>
    <Phase name="None">
      <AntUXProcess>false</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>false</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>false</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="AnticipationUX">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>true</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>false</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="Reservation">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>true</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>true</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>false</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="Reserved">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>true</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>false</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="RTM">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>true</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>false</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="GA">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeDetected">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeDownloadInProgress">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>true</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeDownloaded">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>true</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeReadyToInstall">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>true</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeReadySetupInProgress">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>true</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeSetupCompatBlock">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeSetupRolledBack">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UPgradeSetupFailed">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>false</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
    <Phase name="UpgradeSetupComplete">
      <AntUXProcess>true</AntUXProcess>
      <TrayIcon>true</TrayIcon>
      <Advertisement>false</Advertisement>
      <ReservationPage>false</ReservationPage>
      <Upgrading>true</Upgrading>
      <DownloadInProgress>false</DownloadInProgress>
      <DownloadComplete>false</DownloadComplete>
      <ReadyForSetup>false</ReadyForSetup>
      <SetupInProgress>false</SetupInProgress>
      <SetupComplete>true</SetupComplete>
    </Phase>
 </Phases>
 <Triggers>
 </Triggers>
</CONFIG>

Those various phases, tray icon, advertisement, etc. are what the link in the OP is referring to.

There's a new one too, KB2952664

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2015, 04:18:13 am »
Let me preface this with a small bit of history. I've had apple computers since the screens only had one shade, green. With that said, I actually don't have a mac at home now and I'm typing this on windows 7.

I've always had issues with how Microsoft released their operating systems. If they WANT people to upgrade (and trust me, they WANT people to upgrade), then don't freaking charge multiple hundreds of dollars for your operating system. I mean jesus, the majority of the PCs on the planet use freaking windows. Do you really need to charge $300 for it? (XP used to be close to $300 IIRC) I mean jeeze, even charging $100 for it seems a bit excessive.

Apple, on the other hand, have been offering their OSs for $30, $40, free? Even in college, when 10.6 came out... it was a no brainier for me to buy it for $30.  I didn't have a job in college, I literally had no money, yet I still upgraded.

Look, Apple does shitty things too. I "upgraded" to iOS 7 on my iPhone 4. Yeah, I was pissed. I was SO PISSED that I switched to android for a few months. I realized that the android OS sucks more than the "upgraded" iOS, so I switched back. Don't get me wrong, I'm an advanced user that could actually take advantage of the features on android BUT, in the end, I never used it. Every company does shitty things. I just think apple does less shitty things. (Plus every $300 crap box that people love to buy is just loaded with windows (an OS it can barely run), which puts a bad taste in my mouth.)

Anyway, unfortunately windows is a necessity in many jobs today. Many scientific programs only run on windows. Instrument companies don't have the money to develop their programs for mac and pc (and definitely not linux.) Hell, we have computers in my lab that I had to UPGRADE to XP. (Within the last year.) However, that's changing, and I think that is for the better. I'd love to see scientific programs written for linux honestly. (Please don't write them for mac. I don't want a $1000 computer a few feet away from my 800*C apparatus. Apple will (hopefully) never try to enter the "economic" computer market, therefore they'll never be viable for things like lab computers.)
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2015, 06:57:57 am »
Ive got Win 8.1. I'm actually looking forward to getting rid of the metro stuff.
 

Offline smjcuk

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2015, 07:18:24 am »
Ive got Win 8.1. I'm actually looking forward to getting rid of the metro stuff.

Windows 10 just puts metro stuff inside floating windows. It's still there and it's not going away.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2015, 01:50:18 pm »
I'm looking forward to Windows 10. They need to hurry up and release it, I'm getting impatient  ;D The new multi-desktop stuff looks good. Better scaling and multi-monitor support.

Wow, microsoft finally caught up to what Linux has done for many years and Apple has done for (less) years. I'd pat them on the back if I didn't know it'll probably work worse than the other two offerings above.
 

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Re: Windows users - keep an eye on updates for Microsoft installed spam
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2015, 04:16:26 pm »
How happy will you be once you start paying the annual subscription fees for all the options needed to make your "free" Windows OS actually usable? How happy will you be having to buy all your software from the Windows Store?
 


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