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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2018, 09:26:56 am »
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Honestly Treez?

Using the deaths of 72 people to attempt to justify your tawdry little scam?

Beneath contempt.

Thankyou CJay…I admire your concern over the tragedy of the Grenfell Tower Fire of London.
Now that you have this concern, will you now  join the campaign to find out what  REALLY happened?...so that   this such  tragedy never happens again?...……….the woman living opposite this flat (Maryam Adam) saw a “small fire”  in the kitchen…at this time, she noticed that someone had packed several suitcases and had them out on the landing…and it was just  a “small fire” at this time……now…how did this “small fire”  then somehow creep  and then get out the window to the cladding?...............and why did people have time to pack belongings?......why didn’t he just fight the “small fire”?….it must have been a “small fire” for  quite some time…….he could surely  easily have fought the fire.

It actually transpires that the flat (where the fire started) had had double glazing installed, and  air gaps were somehow left  between the frame and walls, and that some flammable sealant had been used to  in some way plug the gaps. The fridge also had had some  kind of “repair” done to it. The fridge also was placed right next to the window…..hmmmmm
The man, whilst warning people,  was heard not just shouting “fire fire”……..but actually shouting that his “fridge has caught fire”


Why did  people start packing bags when it was just a small fire?........

I won’t say what I suspect…but i beg you to hear this……Grenfell Tower  exists in a part of London where property prices are higher than virtually anywhere in the world. Grenfell Tower had been flagged up as an “eyesore”, by agencies trading in the super expensive properties in the Kensington area of London…..hence Grenfell was cladded with the now well known cladding, as part of a “gentrification” scheme to make Grenfell Tower less of an eyesore……….Hmmmmm….are you thinking what I am thinking yet? This cladding went up like dynamite and burnt the entire place down.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/06/15/man-whose-flat-started-grenfell-blaze-packed-luggage-before-raising-alarm-6710853/

https://metro.co.uk/2017/06/14/resident-of-grenfell-tower-flat-where-fire-started-packed-own-stuff-before-warning-neighbours-6709573/

https://metro.co.uk/2017/06/15/grenfell-tower-fire-witness-claims-blaze-wasnt-just-an-accident-6711054/

Also needed is a full electrical analysis of what electrically started the fridge fire, and this to be published and made freely available to everyone on the web....because 100's of similar fridge freezer fires start every year in uk.......are you now  joining the campaign to see these results achieved?

Also, where has "Maryam Adam" gone?...she was the first witness to the fire, and lived in the flat opposite...there were partial  stories from her in all the media after the fire...but now she has just vanished.
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2018, 11:40:19 am »
Also, where has "Maryam Adam" gone?...she was the first witness to the fire, and lived in the flat opposite...there were partial  stories from her in all the media after the fire...but now she has just vanished.

treez, that you should be quoting unsubstantiated year old stories from the Metro and pushing your own conspiracy theories involving the deaths of 72 people, while a proper formal inquiry is taking place to get to the truth, is bad taste in the extreme.  :palm:


What on earth has this to do with your proposal of illegally import, presumably Li-Po powered, Chinese toys with no intention of obtaining safety approvals? and before you say it again...
Thankyou my Friend, but i am an electronics engineer, so i will be able to take the toy cars to pieces and see if they are going to be safe or not.

We wont  bother getting approvals, because nobody who buys the cars is going to bother checking whether  they are approved or not. All they care about is getting them cheap and that they are not going to burst into flames.

... from the threads you have started on this forum, I wouldn't trust you to personally assess the safety of a paper bag!

Your tenuous linking of, and arguments on, the two subjects is completely incongruous.

Finally PLEASE don't thank this post! [Edit:  :palm:]
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2018, 08:02:04 pm »
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Finally PLEASE don't thank this post!
Thanks but no i double thank your post, for your great concern for the Grenfell tragedy.

Thing is, most of the family of those tragically killed in Grenfell, and their friends, are asking the questions that i am asking right now, and they want them asked right now, they dont want to wait for the "enquiry".
Seriously,  there should be a uk government funded enquiry into fridge fires, as there are 300 of them per year in uk, and many result in fatalities....i bet this problem is solveable.......so many have shown your great concern over Grenfell, and have just fallen short of accusing me of starting it........now we can all show our true humanity by writing to our MP and getting this fridge fire study done.

If somebody writes out a letter here on this subject , and posts it here, so we can copy/paste it to our MP, then i am grateful, and accept VERY THANKFULLY and gratefully , any further insults relating to Grenfell tragedy directed toward my person....i want to stop future Grenfells.

I have done a heck of a lot of electrical product inflammability tests.......and  for a reasonably protected product, its usually incredibly difficult to get a fire started with an electrical product.
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2018, 08:33:23 pm »
You need to chill and take it to another forum, preferably one that's got a larger UK audience, instead of this one. Even though you started the thread, it's still not appropriate to derail it with a political action campaign.
 
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2018, 09:00:00 pm »
Whilst I appreciate your zeal in trying to highlight a potential issue with refrigerators, I'm afraid I can't add any specific instances to your call. The statistics appear to be known and I am sure, must be under separate investigation. I know that the similar issue with tumble driers has lead to product recall and remedial action, albeit slow and inadequate. It's hard to know what further can be done about that as it has already been raised in Parliament and committee.

My issue is with you muddying the waters of the Grenfell inquiry by dragging up unsubstantiated press stories of luggage packing, missing persons, etc.


I still fail to see any connection between Grenfell and your proposal of illegally importing toys from China (the subject of your OP) and by your own admission, failing to get them appropriately safety tested. I don't see how this can possibly help in reducing instances of fire in the home. You may be in a position to visually inspect them, but you are not able to assess the quality of component parts - you still haven't clarified whether they are Lithium cell powered and, if so, the charging method. Simple inspection would not reveal the use of parts of dubious origin and manufacture. A proper approval test would require a proper documentation and approvals of the parts used.

I'm sure we all remember the fiasco of spontaneously combusting imported 'hover-boards' a year or so ago and the resulting potentially lethal consequences. They weren't properly tested either. Please don't express such outrage about Grenfell, whilst at the same time putting yourself, to whatever degree, in the 'hover-board' camp.
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2018, 08:14:32 pm »
Thanks, i am sure you all realise that i am not in the business of bringing Chinese goods to the UK market...neither do i have any interest in  doing it.
Even if i was i guess i would be going secret squirrel, and not publishing my intent here.
But i am interested in how common it is, and how much money is being made in the middle-manning  of Chinese products through UK ports.
Are we taking  middle man profits of 100's of thousands, millions, tens of millions, or billions each year?, over the whole of UK's large  middle-man fraternity?
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2018, 08:25:47 pm »
THANKFULLY and gratefully , any further insults relating to Grenfell tragedy directed toward my person....i want to stop future Grenfells.
If that is your aim then become a building materials inspector. The sole reason the Grenfell tower turned into an inferno is that alterations to the building turned it into a death trap. These kind of high rise buildings have been designed to contain a fire into one appartment so people can escape. Unfortunately some idiots covered the outside with extremely flamable material which spread the fire on the outside of the building quickly.
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2018, 10:26:51 pm »
But i am interested in how common it is, and how much money is being made in the middle-manning  of Chinese products through UK ports, (without paying the EU tariff) and then onto UK and mainland europe as if they were made in the UK.

Since the UK is part of the EU, it follows that UK ports are EU ports and EU import regulations apply. I have no idea why you think that importing into the UK can "bypass" the EU?
I'm not an EE--what am I doing here?
 
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Re: Wish to bring electric toy cars to market
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2018, 10:35:33 pm »
But i am interested in how common it is, and how much money is being made in the middle-manning  of Chinese products through UK ports, (without paying the EU tariff) and then onto UK and mainland europe as if they were made in the UK.

Since the UK is part of the EU, it follows that UK ports are EU ports and EU import regulations apply. I have no idea why you think that importing into the UK can "bypass" the EU?

I've highlighted your misapprehension.
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