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I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« on: July 22, 2018, 09:08:50 am »
but this: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/352032/ is in chingalish.......
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2018, 09:20:10 am »
The authors of this 1994 paper are Japanese. What is so surprising here? Engineers are not particularly known for their linguistic powers.
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2018, 09:24:03 am »
Well I'm not paying $14 for a load of gibberish. If you are publishing something get it reviewed by a language "expert".
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2018, 09:31:37 am »
Well I'm not paying $14 for a load of gibberish. If you are publishing something get it reviewed by a language "expert".

Who said you have to pay for it? https://sci-hub.tw/https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/352032/
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 09:40:56 am »
OK, well they had no direct access to it but there was a purchase price. I am trying to clarify what the hell the course that I am reading (to "study" it would be offensive given it's banality) is on about. They are so bad at explaining stuff that they don't give you the full picture and then I am supposed to answer questions without resorting to copying and pasting their poor excuse for an explanation.
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2018, 10:09:55 am »
IEEE is "just a publisher". The usual approach to filter out total junk is to check quality of the venue. If it's a A++ conference, then you are sort of safe. But don't expect much if it's a workshop organized by random people.
 
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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2018, 10:19:07 am »
Well, the number of citations combined with paper's age is also a decent indicator if it's relevant to first read..

I usually stick the most cited papers when first reading up a subject, look at their authors recent work and references and their authors, and go from there.

There is little point in trying to go through a paper like this, let alone paying full price for it.

I think @exe is right; IEEE is not going to rescue everything. They may have layout standards and such, but I've also seen some pretty horrific papers (both in grammar and content itself), and I've only been in academia for a fairly short time..
 
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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2018, 10:23:08 am »
Well i gave up and just did monkey see monkey do response. The problem is that what i have been given is a heavily summarised version to the point a few facts have been missed out that would give an intelligent person a proper understanding at some level of what is going on but this particular module was not aimed at intelligent people clearly....
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2018, 06:12:09 am »
but this: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/352032/ is in chingalish.......

It's a conference paper. Some conference papers are well-written, some are not. Authors are often rushing to meet the conference submission deadline.

Journal papers are usually of a higher standard.
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2018, 06:40:21 am »
I'll let them off then ;)
 

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Re: I thought the IEEE was a reputable body
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2018, 12:09:58 am »
I have a digest to send in by 25th, and I have not started writing it ATM. I just got the data tested on Friday. Kinda tells you what to expect from conference papers :scared:.

I once asked conference organizers for an extension to the deadline, and got it. My co-author found an error in my draft, so it wasn't until a few minutes before the new deadline that I uploaded the final version.

When the upload briefly stalled, my hands started shaking.
 


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