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themadhippy:
--- Quote ---No one would teach a Wood burning, Tesla coils and Jacob ladder training course
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no wood burning,but tesla coils and jacobs ladders certainly made an appearance in the cse physics lessons at my school,then again it was a different era were chemistry included putting things like sodium in water and metal work including casting ,all considered far too dangerous in today's nanny state.
Someone:
--- Quote from: Marco on June 21, 2022, 10:47:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: Someone on June 21, 2022, 10:19:57 pm ---The only way to achieve competency in [high voltage] sort of work is through one on one training and assessment as there are so many little things that need to be constantly thought about and considered.
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No one would teach a Wood burning, Tesla coils and Jacob ladder training course ... too much liability, not enough profit.
Closest to training you can get is books and youtube videos from the tesla coil crowd.
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There are industries where profit is made, that use routinely high voltages. Enclosures with interlocks is the usual solution, but there are hand held applications:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauterization#Electrocautery
But consumers are cheap, ignorant, and selfish: "my friend on facebook did it and they didnt die" so the cycle continues. They never even recognize the danger. This ends up with heavy handed government intervention like restricting supply of things which could be transformed into something dangerous (chemical industry) which is bad for people doing electronics as a hobby or profession. Getting electrical parts at retail is already a bit of a juggle in Australia.
james_s:
--- Quote from: wraper on June 21, 2022, 07:14:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: james_s on June 21, 2022, 06:30:53 pm ---And let's keep things in perspective, bicycles kill more people than MOTs. So do roofs and stairs (falls), swimming pools (drowning), and many other things. The world is dangerous and complacency kills.
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Let's keep in perspective that ratio of those who were killed divided by total users is way lower for bicycles than those who played dumb games with microwave transformer.
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Do you have any data to support this? I have no idea how many people play with microwave transformers. They are obviously very dangerous and this should be emphasized, but it is not rocket science to use one safely. Discussion should be open and encouraged, that is one way to teach people they are in over their head and teach others how to do what they're going to do anyway safely. People do stupid dangerous stuff all the time and telling them to never do it doesn't stop them.
james_s:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on June 21, 2022, 11:26:06 pm ---
--- Quote ---No one would teach a Wood burning, Tesla coils and Jacob ladder training course
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no wood burning,but tesla coils and jacobs ladders certainly made an appearance in the cse physics lessons at my school,then again it was a different era were chemistry included putting things like sodium in water and metal work including casting ,all considered far too dangerous in today's nanny state.
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When I was in school we had casting, woodworking, metal shop, in chemistry we made contact explosives and the teacher had a carbide cannon and potato gun among other toys. Part of my 8th grade physical education class was an archery unit where we used real bows and sharp tipped arrows. I bet kids these days don't get to do most of that stuff.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 22, 2022, 04:37:17 am ---
--- Quote from: wraper on June 21, 2022, 07:14:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: james_s on June 21, 2022, 06:30:53 pm ---And let's keep things in perspective, bicycles kill more people than MOTs. So do roofs and stairs (falls), swimming pools (drowning), and many other things. The world is dangerous and complacency kills.
--- End quote ---
Let's keep in perspective that ratio of those who were killed divided by total users is way lower for bicycles than those who played dumb games with microwave transformer.
--- End quote ---
Do you have any data to support this? I have no idea how many people play with microwave transformers. They are obviously very dangerous and this should be emphasized, but it is not rocket science to use one safely. Discussion should be open and encouraged, that is one way to teach people they are in over their head and teach others how to do what they're going to do anyway safely. People do stupid dangerous stuff all the time and telling them to never do it doesn't stop them.
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The lack of data is an issue, but that makes it worse in many respects, as we don't know the relative risk. I suspect the risk is much higher in those who use a microwave oven transformer for something like wood fractal making, because it's an art and artists are generally less competent in dealing with high voltage than those who make Tesla coils and Jacob's ladders.
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