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| BrokenYugo:
I'm not sure this is really comparable to a NST powered Jacobs ladder or Tesla coil. A MOT has much more bite behind it than a NST, and the end goal of a Tesla coil or Jacobs ladder is usually to watch from a distance in time limited demonstrations, sitting on a shelf in a harmless state most of the time. Not manually poking the output of a roughly 2kV, .5A 50/60Hz power supply into a puddle of salt water. |
| Cyberdragon:
--- Quote from: BrokenYugo on June 22, 2022, 06:11:10 pm ---I'm not sure this is really comparable to a NST powered Jacobs ladder or Tesla coil. A MOT has much more bite behind it than a NST, and the end goal of a Tesla coil or Jacobs ladder is usually to watch from a distance in time limited demonstrations, sitting on a shelf in a harmless state most of the time. Not manually poking the output of a roughly 2kV, .5A 50/60Hz power supply into a puddle of salt water. --- End quote --- Why do people need to get handsy with a MOT? That's the problem I see here. Why not just set up a jig, step away, THEN start the burning? I mean, with some HV stuff like industrial and lineman work, you have no choice sometimes, it has to be on, but someones got a do it. There's no reason people need to be getting all up close and personal with a wood burning machine. |
| Sredni:
--- Quote from: Cyberdragon on June 22, 2022, 06:45:51 pm --- --- Quote from: BrokenYugo on June 22, 2022, 06:11:10 pm ---I'm not sure this is really comparable to a NST powered Jacobs ladder or Tesla coil. A MOT has much more bite behind it than a NST, and the end goal of a Tesla coil or Jacobs ladder is usually to watch from a distance in time limited demonstrations, sitting on a shelf in a harmless state most of the time. Not manually poking the output of a roughly 2kV, .5A 50/60Hz power supply into a puddle of salt water. --- End quote --- Why do people need to get handsy with a MOT? That's the problem I see here. Why not just set up a jig, step away, THEN start the burning? I mean, with some HV stuff like industrial and lineman work, you have no choice sometimes, it has to be on, but someones got a do it. There's no reason people need to be getting all up close and personal with a wood burning machine. --- End quote --- How do you take a selfie or make a youtube video with your face in it, if you don't? |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Cyberdragon on June 22, 2022, 06:45:51 pm --- --- Quote from: BrokenYugo on June 22, 2022, 06:11:10 pm ---I'm not sure this is really comparable to a NST powered Jacobs ladder or Tesla coil. A MOT has much more bite behind it than a NST, and the end goal of a Tesla coil or Jacobs ladder is usually to watch from a distance in time limited demonstrations, sitting on a shelf in a harmless state most of the time. Not manually poking the output of a roughly 2kV, .5A 50/60Hz power supply into a puddle of salt water. --- End quote --- Why do people need to get handsy with a MOT? That's the problem I see here. Why not just set up a jig, step away, THEN start the burning? I mean, with some HV stuff like industrial and lineman work, you have no choice sometimes, it has to be on, but someones got a do it. There's no reason people need to be getting all up close and personal with a wood burning machine. --- End quote --- It seems to me that a good enclosure for this sort of thing is the microwave the transformer came in. Just remove the magnetron, keep the door interlocks intact. If you need to move the probes while it's operating, attach them to plastic rods that pass through holes just large enough for them in the grounded metal cabinet. |
| BrokenYugo:
--- Quote from: Cyberdragon on June 22, 2022, 06:45:51 pm --- --- Quote from: BrokenYugo on June 22, 2022, 06:11:10 pm ---I'm not sure this is really comparable to a NST powered Jacobs ladder or Tesla coil. A MOT has much more bite behind it than a NST, and the end goal of a Tesla coil or Jacobs ladder is usually to watch from a distance in time limited demonstrations, sitting on a shelf in a harmless state most of the time. Not manually poking the output of a roughly 2kV, .5A 50/60Hz power supply into a puddle of salt water. --- End quote --- Why do people need to get handsy with a MOT? That's the problem I see here. Why not just set up a jig, step away, THEN start the burning? I mean, with some HV stuff like industrial and lineman work, you have no choice sometimes, it has to be on, but someones got a do it. There's no reason people need to be getting all up close and personal with a wood burning machine. --- End quote --- Takes more thought to work more remotely, which requires understanding what you're dealing with in the first place, space, planning, etc. And people are lazy and usually working from limited resources. Without giving any idiots attention by watching some vids, I'll hazard a guess this might happen fast enough it would be tricky to do at MOT power levels without eyes on it and ability to cut power quickly, or requisite skill to build some adjustable one shot timer circuit. Big Clive notes in his video that it can be done more safely with a NST, but it is more fiddly and slower. |
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