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AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on December 17, 2022, 08:33:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on December 17, 2022, 06:23:06 pm ---And daisy chaining outlets isn't a very good idea because you create a connection at every point

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This is how nearly every lighting and socket circuit throughout the world is wired. Hell, this is how every street light and house is wired under or over the road. You're overthinking things.

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I think he means you're adding pluggable connections rather than fixed wiring connections. They have a slightly higher contact resistance, and under certain conditions are more prone to unwanted behaviours such as arcing.
Ideally you shouldn't have more than one pluggable connection in series (no I don't stick to this either but it's a calculated risk).
nctnico:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on December 17, 2022, 08:33:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on December 17, 2022, 06:23:06 pm ---And daisy chaining outlets isn't a very good idea because you create a connection at every point

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This is how nearly every lighting and socket circuit throughout the world is wired. Hell, this is how every street light and house is wired under or over the road. You're overthinking things.

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You are misunderstanding. Just look at a typical outlet: you can daisy chain these but the connection isn't ideal. It is more for convenience to hook up 2 to 3 outlets from the same 'feed' but not more. If you look at proper house wiring, you'll see that the wires are connected as a bus with the wires to a socket being spliced off instead of using the socket to splice the wires. At least that is how my house is wired...
themadhippy:

--- Quote ---Just look at a typical outlet: you can daisy chain these but the connection isn't ideal.
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thats wot you get for using mickey mouse outlets,the far superior britsh socket outlet is designed to easily accept 2 cables,even 3 and at a push 4.
Monkeh:

--- Quote from: nctnico on December 17, 2022, 09:49:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on December 17, 2022, 08:33:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on December 17, 2022, 06:23:06 pm ---And daisy chaining outlets isn't a very good idea because you create a connection at every point

--- End quote ---

This is how nearly every lighting and socket circuit throughout the world is wired. Hell, this is how every street light and house is wired under or over the road. You're overthinking things.

--- End quote ---
You are misunderstanding. Just look at a typical outlet: you can daisy chain these but the connection isn't ideal. It is more for convenience to hook up 2 to 3 outlets from the same 'feed' but not more. If you look at proper house wiring, you'll see that the wires are connected as a bus with the wires to a socket being spliced off instead of using the socket to splice the wires. At least that is how my house is wired...

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.. either way you have just as many joints. Actually, more your way. If your sockets don't have reliable terminations, they're not fit for use whether they're daisy chained or not.
nctnico:
The point is that you can make a much more reliable splice compared to clamping wires under a screw or (worse) a spring loaded contact. Run a washing machine from splices that use a spring loaded connector for a couple of years and you'll find out why having good solid splices in which the wires are twisted together tightly, matter. One of my close family members has worked as an electrician all his life and for high power loads, he always used the twist-on connectors instead of the spring loaded connectors. Even the expensive ones are prone to failing.
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