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| rodpp:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 09, 2020, 09:29:38 am --- --- Quote from: rodpp on May 08, 2020, 06:03:52 pm ---Although poor, I want to believe that data is above the noise floor. --- End quote --- It's more likely the figures just reflect what your government want you to believe. --- End quote --- I was referring to the global data available, used to compares Australia and Brazil numbers, where Australia controlled the transmissions and Brazil not, after a very similar starting. No my government specific. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: rodpp on May 09, 2020, 10:34:04 am --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on May 09, 2020, 09:29:38 am --- --- Quote from: rodpp on May 08, 2020, 06:03:52 pm ---Although poor, I want to believe that data is above the noise floor. --- End quote --- It's more likely the figures just reflect what your government want you to believe. --- End quote --- I was referring to the global data available, used to compares Australia and Brazil numbers, where Australia controlled the transmissions and Brazil not, after a very similar starting. No my government specific. --- End quote --- The numbers on those graphs are provided by the countries' respective governments. |
| rodpp:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 09, 2020, 11:10:16 am --- --- Quote from: rodpp on May 09, 2020, 10:34:04 am --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on May 09, 2020, 09:29:38 am --- --- Quote from: rodpp on May 08, 2020, 06:03:52 pm ---Although poor, I want to believe that data is above the noise floor. --- End quote --- It's more likely the figures just reflect what your government want you to believe. --- End quote --- I was referring to the global data available, used to compares Australia and Brazil numbers, where Australia controlled the transmissions and Brazil not, after a very similar starting. No my government specific. --- End quote --- The numbers on those graphs are provided by the countries' respective governments. --- End quote --- Exactly. And they come from nurses and local doctors, to the cities health administration, then to all states/provinces, and are consolidated by federal government. It's similar in all countries. If all that data is being manipulated, that are too much people involved. At least in democratic countries where the people have access to hospitals data, cities data and states/provinces data to check the consolidated federal data. One of those that is doing a great job in scrutinize that data is the press, as well as universities, research groups, etc. I believe more in incompetence to deal with such pandemia, all around the world, as almost none country were prepared to deal with it. Included in this incompetence are inadequate informatics systems, not centralized data systems, fewer test kits than necessary, untrained staff, and so on. And specifically in Brazil, what the government wants that the population believes is exactly the opposite of the picture shown by the available data. |
| thinkfat:
"Never attribute to malice..." |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: thinkfat on May 09, 2020, 11:52:58 am ---"Never attribute to malice..." --- End quote --- The usual missing half of that line is "that which can be explained by incompetence". However, in the case of statistics gathering its really about laziness. Its really hard to gather good, solid, meaningful information and its not usually a core activity for those gathering it. So, they just get lazy. |
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