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nctnico:

--- Quote from: cdev on May 10, 2020, 09:09:29 pm ---Rhinoviruses and coronaviruses. But youre right, many are coronaviruses and those coronaviruses rarely become life thretening except in the severaly iummunocompromised, or very young people. Its only SARS, MERS and SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) that are.

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I wonder what will be invented first: a useable nuclear fusion reactor or a universal flu vaccine. I put my money on the first. And even if a universal flu vaccine gets invented there will be another disease which causes a pandemic. It is a sobering thought that your body is continously battling with virusses and bacteria that try to kill it.

PlainName:

--- Quote --- a lot of people who tested okay got reinfected or reactivated
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The hypothesis is that those people were merely still coughing up original debris from their lungs, which would trigger a positive test even though they weren't reinfected (nor still infected).

Someone:
Most of the places planning to reduce restrictions are doing so fully planning to reintroduce restrictions if the spread starts heading towards overwhelming the healthcare system. Restrictions will likely come and go periodically for some time to come, as finding the balancing point where healthcare demand matches supply is very difficult (non-deterministic system, long lag time, etc).

For countries with more control that will likely include localised interventions/restrictions with better granularity.

The larger picture is countries/regions considering different values on human life.

jeffheath:

--- Quote from: DrG on May 10, 2020, 04:22:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: jeffheath on May 10, 2020, 04:00:47 pm ---I don't understand the point of the maps and graphs. The more people in a place, the more people that have the disease. You talk about "reopening" as if counties and states have an on or off button. People going back to work physically will cause a rise in the number of people with the disease, obviously. That doesn't mean re-restricting "strategically" will help anything.

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I believe you when you say that you don't understand the points of the maps and graphs.

Have you not read the PLANS that States and local Governments use and the FEDERAL guidelines for opening up? Do you not understand that the US is not going to have a ribbon cutting for Opening Back Up Day (despite the head clown's Easter fantasy). Do you understand the concept of PHASED reopening? If you did, then you understand that the point of all those many maps and graphs that made your head hurt is to illustrate the difficulty of the challenge. 

I also believe that you think "That doesn't mean re-restricting "strategically" will help anything". Did you not understand the concept of overwhelming health care resources and to avoid that situation (which has been experienced already in the US and is not simply a model prediction) might very well involve re-restricting "strategically"

We are coming from very different perspectives and the distance between them means to me that I can't discuss the issue with you. I am saying so, because it represents a personal change where I simply don't have the patience to "discuss" certain topics with certain people. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I.

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Why do I feel like this strategic re-restricting is just "send everyone back to work, if the hospitals fill up, send them home again"  :-//

paulca:

--- Quote from: nctnico on May 10, 2020, 10:21:07 pm ---It is a sobering thought that your body is continously battling with virusses and bacteria that try to kill it.

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I think pandemics like this put us firmly in our place.  I say it's enough of this "Earth was created for man" BS spun by religions.  Man is but part of nature, not the other way around.

The romanticising of nature is something only those in rich cultures with good health care can afford.  Those that are protected from most of the wrath and brutality of nature celebrate it and seek "natural" this and that.  Those who are not protected from it would take your synthetic this or that at the drop of a hat.

Most of the world is currently being dipped into the bath of the later.  Realising that we are just part of nature and nature is a right fucking bitch most of the time.  It's time to get off our high horses and realise this, rather than staying firmly up our own arses.

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