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EEVblog:
I've had to clean up recent posts this thread. Please stay on topic.

Electro Detective:

Post Impacts Of Corona Virus:

When this blows over or downgraded till the next wave,
are there any laws or regulations, in any countries with a few grams of integrity left,
that will prosecute profiteers that milked the situation,
as well as clamping down on all the exaggerated and or unsupported reporting and comment by news media, politicians, medical authorities etc
after giving them a fair go to prove beyond any doubt they had solid data to support what was going on,
rather than just rolling with what was and still is going on.

i.e. loads of networking and cash for comment parroting on this deal, why should they be allowed to do a runner with pockets full,
holding cushy well paid positions during the entire ordeal,
while the rest of us are left to man up and 'join together to rebuild'
or what they really mean is, to put it bluntly, 'do it tough and stfu'

The lot of them need to be rounded up so that this never happens again, or on such a grand scale,
and that includes the idiots that started the entire fiasco playing with test tubes,
apparently containing bat droppings that somehow got into some downstairs party finger food..?  :o  or some variation on the 'story'

Please...   :palm:


PlainName:

--- Quote ---The British PM talks about "good old british common sense" the mere concept is a joke.
--- End quote ---

At risk of Dave treating this as expendable, despite it going to be about returning to work (and when he allows the off-topic rabid trolling from ED)...

I think Boris is trying to play a straight bat. Sure, people want rock solid rules to follow, but the situation doesn't really allow that. The plan would be to get people back to work to save the economy, but at the same time not making things worse at a health level, and I don't think you can be very precise about that.

Suppose he says, Right, from Monday the cafes can open. We know what would happen - come Monday 00:01 they will be chokka with people who will risk getting infected because they can then blame Boris for opening up too soon. The kind of questions he was asked demonstrated that mindset. If you're talking to your mate from 2m away in the park and you both see another mate, can you talk to him to? The obvious answer is to use your common sense. Why do you think you are standing 2m away, and how is another mate 2m away going to be different from a shopping queue? That shouldn't be a problem, but obviously a bunch of you going to the park for a conflab would be.

I think we either accept that given some basic guidelines we use our commonsense to fill in the gaps as they turn up, or we require micro-managing. The first option means we can go out sunbathing so long as we keep our distance. The second means they can't risk letting us do that (give us an inch and we want all eight) so it's 1 hour of exercise within half a mile, once a day, etc.

Now translate that to the business thing where we're not talking about a single thing like being out in a park, but there are many different types of business with different requirements. A couple of brickies working outside next to each other probably isn't as bad as two office types sitting 10 feet apart in a closed-windowed office, but try to explain that on the TV news and imagine the headlines the next day. And the silly questions.

At some point we have to get back to business and it is going to require some commonsense to make it work. I think it's reasonable at this point to more or less say, well, we are doing good enough to think about getting back to (the new) normal so let's give it a try, but be prepared to back off some if it starts going titsup. And by being less precise about what, who, where, when we get a gradual drift instead of massed ranks.

DrG:
Pretty decent information about risk of infection. Particularly relevant in these "opening up" times. Written by an immunologist. With references. A 12 min read and no video. From 5 days ago (but updated since). Worthwhile in my view.

The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR0

james_s:

--- Quote from: jeffheath on May 11, 2020, 06:02:09 pm ---These businesses (the big ones, anyway) don't seem to make it clear whether or not they are furloughing for monetary or government restriction reasons, but at this point it's a chicken or the egg problem anyway, as the economy is actually crap now. However, I did find that several governors are ordering small businesses to close, which seems odd to me as they just kissed their re-election goodbye.

--- End quote ---

I'm not so sure about that. I don't want to see businesses forced to close without good reason but it is important to try to slow the spread. Here in the Seattle area they've succeeded in dramatically flattening the curve and while I was not exactly a fan of our governor in the first place I think he has done a reasonably good job and his approval rating on handling the pandemic was around 85% last I read. In this area which is a hotspot of education and wealth people overwhelmingly support the efforts that have been taken, there is quite clear evidence that it has worked.

My hope is just that the numbers don't spike back up because we really do need to get things opened back up. It's frustrating to think that a complete coordinated lockdown for just a few weeks could have stopped the spread.

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