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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
cdev:
I just want to clarify that I was NOT suggesting a one way deferment of rent and mortgage payments only for tenants, I was saying that efforts should be made to push those kinds of monthly, income dependent bills for everybody into the future, including landlords payments on their mortgages. In particular efforts should be made to prevent large scale disruptions for people rather than forcing people into unsafe situations. (Or burying people in medical debt).
Suppose they did start evicting poor eople for nonpayment of rent, when they couldnt work out onto the streets. Adding large numbers of families, including children, retired people, everybody who doesnt have the money, becoming homeless and likely losing everything they own, unless they can afford a storage space to the disaster. Already, huge numbers of people have lost their jobs and healthcare coverage.
And it will also make the epidemic far worse because people in homeless shelters cant social distance, they don't have the personal space people living in a home do.
Whatever society asks people to do, it must make sense and be fair. It shouldnt be based on rigid inflexible rules. Because this is an unprecedented situation.
DrG:
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--- Quote from: Syntax Error on May 14, 2020, 09:00:44 am ---BBC News: Coronavirus antibody test a 'positive development'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52656808
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My wife managed to procure a few Covid-19 antibody tests (according to the documentation they should be 90% accurate) because we got a flu in the beginning of March. We both tested negative but the procedure is more involved than simply putting a drop of blood in a test. The tests needs quite a large amount of blood and I'm still not sure whether I followed the procedures correctly. So no conclusive results. All in all I can't really recommend buying a test. Better wait for a government test program. Oh, and sticking a needle in your finger to draw blood sucks.
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I am interested, how did they define the 90% accuracy? Hope this isn't viewed as off-topic, but it really does interest me and has a lot of bearing on how these tests are advertised.
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The instruction leaflet says 'based on a clinical trial' but I have not been able to find any approval for official use. Only a Canadian government page which says 'under review'.
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oic The wave has started, as we all knew it would. I did some looking around and found this test for $169 https://www.healthlabs.com/covid-19-antibody-test?pid=9007812&iid=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvq_4m5S06QIVhOiGCh0NwgQuEAAYAyAAEgKsw_D_BwE
Their description of the accuracy....
The accuracy of a lab test is measured in "sensitivity" and "specificity". Sensitivity is the test's ability to correctly identify those with antibodies (true positives) and specificity is the test's ability to identify those without the antibodies (true negatives). According to independent studies from Abbott Labs, Quest Diagnostics and the University of Washington, this test has a sensitivity of 100% and a specificity of 99.6% making it the most accurate COVID-19 antibody test currently available.
...which *sounds* pretty darn good to me.
Seems you go to one of their "Over 4,500 CLIA-Certified Labs U.S. Labs" and get a blood draw. No, you can't use your health insurance, but you can use PayPal.
BTW: ducking out of the page gets you a 10% discount offer.
I just don't know how good this is and I also don't know what these products/services are going to be like in the next few months...I do know we will be seeing a whole lot more of them.
Way back when (Apr 3) https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/covid-19-virus/msg2997418/#msg2997418 We were talking about the idea of a so-called immunity certificate - looks like it is here.
nctnico:
Still a test only shows if you have had it or not. There is no guarantee you won't be infected again and if so that you'll survive the next time too. Curiosity though... The bottom line is that I'll still need to plan for some 'down time'.
For sure antibody testing will be a big thing in the near future.
EEVblog:
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--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 14, 2020, 10:43:15 am ---How many more off-topic posts do I have to delete in this thread before get the message to stay on topic?
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The whole thread is largely what I'd consider off topic under normal circumstances, but given the extremely broad impacts of what is going on in the world right now I don't know that it's a bad thing necessarily although it would be nice to keep all of the Covid related discussion in one thread rather than having it seeping into everything.
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Yes, but people just can't help themselves by getting into a politics and other rubbish.
DrG:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 14, 2020, 10:35:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: james_s on May 14, 2020, 07:30:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 14, 2020, 10:43:15 am ---How many more off-topic posts do I have to delete in this thread before get the message to stay on topic?
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The whole thread is largely what I'd consider off topic under normal circumstances, but given the extremely broad impacts of what is going on in the world right now I don't know that it's a bad thing necessarily although it would be nice to keep all of the Covid related discussion in one thread rather than having it seeping into everything.
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Yes, but people just can't help themselves by getting into a politics and other rubbish.
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Yes, I suppose that is true. It is almost impossible for some level of politics [not] to come into it because, well, Governments handle pandemics and the entire planet is impacted by this one.
If the topic has to go, I will not whine. I will say this, in all honesty, I have read so much about this topic in so many places, I can't even believe how many hours that I have spent doing so.
As far as any EE or similar forum...This place has been BY FAR the most open and the place that has had the most up-to-date content posted and with the most intelligent discussion. I stress the most open and the most tolerant of wide viewpoints (some of them so offensive to me personally that I have wretched a bit when reading them). This was also true in a previous thread that was closed.
The only thing worse than closing the thread or the topic would be to only allow a certain viewpoint. I have seen plenty of that, including on EE forums.
I get signal-to-noise ratios and if it gets locked, so be it and sorry if I contributed to the reason.
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