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| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 22, 2020, 10:10:05 pm ---The article clearly states we should still clean our surfaces. What is the main path of transmission is highly sensitive to context. If people keep a distance then surfaces automatically become a more significant path of transmission. The real question then is: is transmission through surfaces a big enough problem? Given that the experts still say that cleaning surfaces is necessary it seems the answer to that question is 'yes'. --- End quote --- Of course, no different to regular cleaning of surfaces in places like gyms for example where people share equipment all the time. That was common practice before the whole coronovirus thing, no surprise at all that general health advice on that isn't going to change. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on May 22, 2020, 11:09:12 am ---The experts also said that meat prices would drop by around 30% due to an over supply and restaurants being closed. I went to town on a new barbecue with all the accessories and the meat prices didn't drop. I now feel like a silly sausage. :D ;D --- End quote --- Ours were down for a while but prices on some meats have gone up lately. We had several cases of meat processing plants where most of the workforce, hundreds of people tested positive for Covid and in at least one case three of them died and the plant was shut down for a period. I haven't checked the prices on cows but they don't magically turn into steaks without a little help. |
| rdl:
The Kroger here limits purchase of fresh meats. Also, a lot of stuff has still not come back to normal stock levels. They did finally get some alcohol based hand cleaner in stock, which apparently comes from a local distillery, but the price is around $16 per liter. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 22, 2020, 10:10:05 pm --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on May 22, 2020, 09:30:06 pm ---Use undoped mercury lamps which produce shorter wavelength UVC that make ozone, which can disinfect surfaces not exposed to the radiation. --- Quote from: EEVblog on May 22, 2020, 10:58:29 am ---Medical experts now say coronavirus ‘does not spread easily’ via surfaces https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/medical-experts-now-say-coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-via-surfaces-c-1052650 In other news, Isopropyl prices plummet. --- End quote --- I thought that was the case: that the main path of transmission is via the air. I wish people at work would focus more on social distancing, rather than cleaning. --- End quote --- The article clearly states we should still clean our surfaces. What is the main path of transmission is highly sensitive to context. If people keep a distance then surfaces automatically become a more significant path of transmission. The real question then is: is transmission through surfaces a big enough problem? Given that the experts still say that cleaning surfaces is necessary it seems the answer to that question is 'yes'. --- End quote --- Yes cleanliness is important, but what bothers me is when people spend time cleaning tools someone else has used, or worry about sharing stationary, only to talk with one another face-to-face, at much less than 2m distance, especialy when it could be easily avoided. I know there's a risk of getting infected by lending an infected person my screwdriver, then using it myself, without washing it first, but it's only significant if I touch my eyes, mouth, or pick my nose etc. but I have a much higher risk of getting infected talking to them, at too closer distance. I know we have to get the job done, whist minimising risk, which will always be greater than zero, and that some tasks may take longer, but it's important people are aware of which activities pose the greater risk and prioritise accordingly. People who are obviously close friends should be moved to different shifts. I know that might be counterproductive work-wise, as friends might work better together, but cutting the risk of spread is more important at the moment. There are also instances of two or more sharing an office, when there are spare offices available. I asked the boss about this and he said the people felt as though they could share an office, whilst maintaining social distancing, but I'm cynical. I think it would be better to force people to have separate offices, whenever possible. The virus can still spread to someone >2m away, so separate offices makes sense. We've been told that if one person in the department is infected, the rest of the team don't need to self-isolate or get tested, as the managers think the current measures are effective, but I know it's impractical for them to be followed all the time, so close colleagues of an infected person should self-isolate, until they test negative. If someone who I work with is infected, I will self-isolate, get tested and only return to work, if it's negative. I don't care whether it's company policy or not. |
| GlennSprigg:
--- Quote from: nctnico on May 21, 2020, 06:43:11 pm ---I've caught that too. Seems suspicious to me. The trains looked like New York subway carts to me. A quick Google confirms it: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/20/21265221/nyc-mta-ultraviolet-light-uvc-coronavirus-disinfect-puro-pictures If you read the article more carefully it doesn't make much sense. It sounds like a good money sink to me to cash in on the hype. The effect hasn't been scientifically proved and it won't help to prevent human-to-human transmission of virusses much. --- End quote --- Yes, it was a Page ago... sorry!!... Thanks for that addition. Yea, whether U.V. is an aid or not, obviously this article has nothing to do with "Person-to-person" transmission per se'... Except in a way it IS! Dave said on the next page of this discussion, that it seems that contact with surfaces may not be as much of a problem. I disagree. Was proven to 'live' on surfaces from 3 to 5 days. Anyway... IF a surface is infected, and someone else touches that surface in the next train-load of passengers, then it's going to be transferred !! They KEEP talking about people 'washing-their-hands' at home. This is because of the number of things we take for granted, when outside. A few steps with a banister rail. Countless door knobs/handles. Elevator push-buttons. Shopping carts, etc etc. It's NOT just about shaking hands, hugs & kisses!! ALL these devices & more need cleaning, on top of the actual 'person to person' stuff. If 'U.V.' is another proverbial 'Iron In The Fire', then why not use it also! ??? Then again... 'electro detective' s immediate comment after this reply of yours, unfortunately reminded me AGAIN (embarrassingly) how some people are just so NEGATIVE about EVERYTHING! What is it that makes that guy so ANGRY in life?? There are SO many constructive ways in life, to participate & share knowledge, and help, on countless facets. I think knowing when you die changes a lot!!! 8) In the end... There are 'Aussies', and there are 'Aussies'. Don't tar us all with the same brush! :-+ |
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