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DrG:
Seems that a "change" in the thinking/guidance regarding SARS-CoV-2 surface spread story was a misinterpretation of the US CDC changing some text on their site pages https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/22/861193550/advice-on-surface-spread-of-covid-19-has-not-changed-cdc-says.

They (the CDC) says that they have not changed their position on the ways that SARS-CoV-2 can be spread https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

I think it has always been the case that the belief has been that if you touch, with your hand for example, a surface containing sufficient SARS-CoV-2  AND then transfer it to your nose/mouth/eyes, by touching your nose/mouth/eyes, you can get infected.

I don't remember anyone saying or providing evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 can easily penetrate intact skin. Of course if you have a nice fresh cut on your skin, I would expect any self-respecting virus to infect upon having a free ride into your blood stream - but that is a different story.

As far as what I have read, the belief remains that the primary way of spread is through expelled droplets - like from a cough or a sneeze (usually distinguished from truly being airborne).

GlennSprigg:

--- Quote from: DrG on May 23, 2020, 12:36:14 pm ---Seems that a "change" in the thinking/guidance regarding SARS-CoV-2 surface spread story was a misinterpretation of the US CDC changing some text on their site pages https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/22/861193550/advice-on-surface-spread-of-covid-19-has-not-changed-cdc-says.

They (the CDC) says that they have not changed their position on the ways that SARS-CoV-2 can be spread https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

I think it has always been the case that the belief has been that if you touch, with your hand for example, a surface containing sufficient SARS-CoV-2  AND then transfer it to your nose/mouth/eyes, by touching your nose/mouth/eyes, you can get infected.

I don't remember anyone saying or providing evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 can easily penetrate intact skin. Of course if you have a nice fresh cut on your skin, I would expect any self-respecting virus to infect upon having a free ride into your blood stream - but that is a different story.

As far as what I have read, the belief remains that the primary way of spread is through expelled droplets - like from a cough or a sneeze (usually distinguished from truly being airborne).

--- End quote ---

In relation to your sentence that I made Bold, above...   I have never talked about 'Skin' transfer, but the fact that most people end up wiping/moving their hands/fingers to their face/nose/mouth at some stage, and there-in lies the problem.

DrG:

--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on May 23, 2020, 01:39:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: DrG on May 23, 2020, 12:36:14 pm ---Seems that a "change" in the thinking/guidance regarding SARS-CoV-2 surface spread story was a misinterpretation of the US CDC changing some text on their site pages https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/22/861193550/advice-on-surface-spread-of-covid-19-has-not-changed-cdc-says.

They (the CDC) says that they have not changed their position on the ways that SARS-CoV-2 can be spread https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

I think it has always been the case that the belief has been that if you touch, with your hand for example, a surface containing sufficient SARS-CoV-2  AND then transfer it to your nose/mouth/eyes, by touching your nose/mouth/eyes, you can get infected.

I don't remember anyone saying or providing evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 can easily penetrate intact skin. Of course if you have a nice fresh cut on your skin, I would expect any self-respecting virus to infect upon having a free ride into your blood stream - but that is a different story.

As far as what I have read, the belief remains that the primary way of spread is through expelled droplets - like from a cough or a sneeze (usually distinguished from truly being airborne).

--- End quote ---

In relation to your sentence that I made Bold, above...   I have never talked about 'Skin' transfer, but the fact that most people end up wiping/moving their hands/fingers to their face/nose/mouth at some stage, and there-in lies the problem.

--- End quote ---

I agree with you and did not think that you (or anyone) had suggested a trans-cutaneous infection route.

jeffheath:
I'm okay with whatever needs to be done to keep the most people alive, (forcing people to wear masks/gloves, spacing, and even screwing the economy) but the media's reaction to this, as well as the public's, has been abysmal. I saw a car in a supermarket parking lot that was packed liked a sardine can with groceries, so much so that I didn't even realize there was someone IN the car before I was finished taking a picture. Not to mention the toilet paper, which I guess is just people being stupid because they're scared. What I don't understand is why the media has to scare the crap out of everybody, if there's no cure. If they thought it would suddenly make everyone aware and conscious, and super meticulous at containing the disease, than they were wrong.

james_s:
The biggest disappointment for me has been how incredibly politicized this has been. I don't know about other nations but in the USA it has become a split right down the party lines. At the beginning I thought at least one good aspect of the pandemic is that we could put aside politics for a while and all work together with a common goal against a common threat, I mean liberal, conservative and everything in between, I'd have thought we would all like to stay alive and healthy and keep our older relatives alive and healthy but apparently not. It's fine to disagree on how to handle it but it should not be a political matter. 

It has also shown how irrational and self centered the average person is, the hoarding is just one symptom of that. The media has not impressed me either, in the eternal quest for ratings they have missed no opportunity to stir people up, if they're not stirring up fear of infection they're stirring up fear of big evil government taking away our rights.

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