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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
Zero999:
--- Quote from: nctnico on June 02, 2020, 08:49:27 pm ---Pace doesn't matter. Just burn energy. Some say you start burning fat after 20 minutes. I lost weight too in the past half decade by being more active.
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Yes and of course you need to burn more energy than your intake to lose weight. There are other positive effects of high intensity, such as improving fitness and reduced insulin resistance, which you don't get from low intensity. There seems to be lots evidence supporting high-intensity, low-volume interval training, for improving insulin sensitivity, which means your body will burn energy more efficiently, rather storing it as fat, enabling you to eat what you want, without gaining fat.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29197155/
--- Quote from: coppice on June 03, 2020, 11:54:56 am ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 03, 2020, 09:00:11 am ---That's what's good about the UK. The weather is always sort of "okish". If it's pissing it down it's usually warm enough for it not to be too bothersome. If it's hot it's not usually hot enough for it to be bothersome. Most of the time it's just overcast. Also where I am in London it's mostly flat and littered with cycle lanes :)
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This must be a different London from the one where I grew up. Cycling to school was a miserable experience for most of the year. The problems with staying dry on a bike in the rain meant I gave up the bike and walked to school. It a lot easier to walk in the kind of clothes that will keep you dry, and you can use an umbrella on the days where the wind is not too strong. Cycling in London even makes London Transport look attractive... if London Transport actually operates in the direction you need to go.
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Of he has different preferences for cycling weather? I like cool weather for cycling, preferably around 10oC, which is fortunately quite close to the average annual temperature where I live in Eastern England. I don't mind light rain, but the wind is more annoying.
--- Quote from: paulca on June 03, 2020, 11:11:17 am ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 03, 2020, 10:57:42 am ---Time will tell if that is a good idea or not.
We've just been told we're working from home until September earliest. Possibly not even going back until new year. Turned out the office just cost a lot of money and we don't really need it :-DD
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We are getting similar, but possibly start of July. Even the CEO and exec teams say they don't want to return to working in the office 5 days a week. This presents a problem though. Obviously we don't need as many desks and it would be very wasteful to assign people a desk. So all desks become "hot desks" and you would have to book a desk on the days you want to come in. That gets complex if teams want to have days when all team members are in.... if a lot of teams want to be in on Monday it would require more desks that would sit unused the rest of the week.
They were suggesting using the parking booking app to book desks LOL
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Hot desks aren't ideal in a pandemic, because the office needs to be thoroughly cleaned between one user and the next.
--- Quote from: james_s on June 06, 2020, 05:25:50 am ---
--- Quote from: edavid on June 06, 2020, 04:29:13 am ---The outdoor transmission rate is very, very low. There's so much more air to dilute the droplets.
(Around here, the protesters are very conscientious about wearing masks, but it probably doesn't matter.)
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I hope so, but I'm not exceedingly confident. If Covid does start spreading like wildfire again we'll be right back where we started and I don't know that we could go through another round of months of lockdowns without suffering a total economic collapse.
On the other hand, if the protests don't result in a large spike in infections then we can be a lot more confident in opening things back up, at least outdoor things. Even under the best of circumstances we're going to be feeling the effects of the pandemic for a decade or more. Once things reopen there will be a huge rebound of pent up demand for things but eventually reality of the enormous debt accrued will catch up to us. Even as things stand, all the people who have fallen behind on their rent and mortgages are going to have to pay the piper. The eviction moratoriums will expire eventually and most people who are months behind will never be able to catch up.
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Yes, the infection doesn't spread as effectively outside, but huge crowds will definitely increase the spread, especially with lots of people shouting and moving around a lot. Black lives matter, indeed all lives do, so stay at home, where possible and avoid large crowds, like the plague.
The irony is COVID-19 disproportionally affects African Americans. No one knows why. It's odd how there seems to be a focus on socioeconomic factors, which are probably valid, but it could also be biological: genetics and vitamin D deficiency, which is higher in those with darker skin. I think they have an agenda? It's odd how East Asians seem to be less affected by COVID-19, than other ethnic minorities. I wonder if that's because the virus originated over there, there have been similar viruses in East Asia in the past, so people have evolved some immunity?
It's possible the lockdown was overkill, but some overkill was necessary. The R number needed to fall significantly below 1, to bring the number of cases down to a point when they could be managed and buy some time to build testing a contact tracing capacity. Hopefully things can reopen and the disease can be controlled with more targeted measures.
I think landlords will have to write off some of the rent and banks extend mortgages. Evictions are expensive, it can be difficult to get new tenants and sell property. Hopefully there will be an upturn, as people who've continued to work and saved, during the pandemic start spending more. How well the global recovery progresses will depend on whether other countries such as the US, decide to punish China, by putting up trade barriers or not.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 03, 2020, 10:57:42 am ---Time will tell if that is a good idea or not.
We've just been told we're working from home until September earliest. Possibly not even going back until new year. Turned out the office just cost a lot of money and we don't really need it :-DD
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Lots of companies in that boat. Expect to see drops in the commercial realestate market.
james_s:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 06, 2020, 10:19:52 am ---The irony is COVID-19 disproportionally affects African Americans. No one knows why. It's odd how there seems to be a focus on socioeconomic factors, which are probably valid, but it could also be biological: genetics and vitamin D deficiency, which is higher in those with darker skin. I think they have an agenda? It's odd how East Asians seem to be less affected by COVID-19, than other ethnic minorities. I wonder if that's because the virus originated over there, there have been similar viruses in East Asia in the past, so people have evolved some immunity?
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Oddly that was not the case in this region, though the last I read it certainly was elsewhere. This suggests to me that socioeconomic factors are a major contributor. There are not a lot of African Americans in this region but those that are here are largely middle class professionals that live among everyone else. We don't have the large swaths of majority black and/or majority low income ghettos that you see in some areas. Apparently the percentage of people who think Covid is a scam is much higher in those communities and then there are all the usual health issues associated with poverty.
It's possible that cultural factors have helped the Asians, I remember when Covid was first starting to spread I started seeing a lot of Asians wearing masks back before anyone else was, parts of Asia have dealt with pandemics enough times before so it's probably more socially acceptable/expected to wear a face mask out in public. My sample size is far too small to for anything more than idle speculation though.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 06, 2020, 11:12:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 06, 2020, 10:19:52 am ---The irony is COVID-19 disproportionally affects African Americans. No one knows why. It's odd how there seems to be a focus on socioeconomic factors, which are probably valid, but it could also be biological: genetics and vitamin D deficiency, which is higher in those with darker skin. I think they have an agenda? It's odd how East Asians seem to be less affected by COVID-19, than other ethnic minorities. I wonder if that's because the virus originated over there, there have been similar viruses in East Asia in the past, so people have evolved some immunity?
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Oddly that was not the case in this region, though the last I read it certainly was elsewhere. This suggests to me that socioeconomic factors are a major contributor. There are not a lot of African Americans in this region but those that are here are largely middle class professionals that live among everyone else. We don't have the large swaths of majority black and/or majority low income ghettos that you see in some areas. Apparently the percentage of people who think Covid is a scam is much higher in those communities and then there are all the usual health issues associated with poverty.
It's possible that cultural factors have helped the Asians, I remember when Covid was first starting to spread I started seeing a lot of Asians wearing masks back before anyone else was, parts of Asia have dealt with pandemics enough times before so it's probably more socially acceptable/expected to wear a face mask out in public. My sample size is far too small to for anything more than idle speculation though.
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The case for vitamin D, rather than socioeconomics is quite strong.
A study has been done in the UK which tries to correct for socioeconomic factors contributing to the higher COVID-19 death rate in BAME (Black and Minority Ethnicities).
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/methodologies/coronavirusrelateddeathsbyethnicgroupenglandandwalesmethodology
Vitamin D deficiency is more common in people with darker skin, as well as the obese, as it's a fat soluble vitamin and adipose tissue locks it up.
https://www.jabfm.org/content/29/2/226
And there's evidence to support lower serum vitamin D levels, increasing the risk of COVID-19 complications.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40520-020-01570-8
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2020/04/10/2020.04.08.20058578.full.pdf?mod=article_inline
Bud:
So what is the problem, it is an easy fix. Got to the nearest pharmacy and buy vitamin D.
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