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paulca:
I watched an interesting video with GPs discussing things you can do to make CovId infections less severe.

There were no surprises.  It was basically a GP top list of "healthy living".  Diet, sleep, exercise, reduce stress, blood pressure, alcohol, drugs, mental health etc. etc.

In particular "Fat" or adipose tissue was mentioned to contain a protein which was very similar to the spikes on Covid, which was suspected to cause the immune system to overreact leading to potential liver and or kidney complications, leading to more severe reactions in obese people.... allegedly.

Can we stop saying "boost your immune system".  It doesn't work like that.  You don't "boost" your immune system.  To do so would cause auto-immune syndromes.  What you can do is make sure you are not suppressing your immune system with poor diet, alcohol, drugs, vitamin deficiency, over weight, stress etc. etc. etc.

The other thing that I still don't think gets mentioned enough is "getting covid" is not digital.  It's analogue.  It depends on your initial viral dose or over sustained exposure your viral load.  Obvious proof of this will take months to boil down if it ever can be, but data suggested that households who got infections tended to get the same "level" of infection.  When one person had a severe reaction the people they lived with had a potential of a severe reaction too.  So if, like a health worker in PPE you got a very minimal exposure (but some exposure) you might not even get sick as the virus might not get a hold.  However if a person with a severe case coughed in your face and you inhaled a lung full, you are more likely to have a severe reaction.

The reason this should be mentioned more often is to stop people shrugging and saying, "I'm probably
being/been exposed, I'll stop taking care."  So even if social distancing and good hygiene might not ultimately stop you getting covid, it could lower your overall exposure and give your immune system more of a fighting chance early on and lead to a less severe reaction.

bd139:
Spot on. Nice to hear some sanity.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: paulca on June 08, 2020, 10:35:35 am ---I watched an interesting video with GPs discussing things you can do to make CovId infections less severe.

There were no surprises.  It was basically a GP top list of "healthy living".  Diet, sleep, exercise, reduce stress, blood pressure, alcohol, drugs, mental health etc. etc.

In particular "Fat" or adipose tissue was mentioned to contain a protein which was very similar to the spikes on Covid, which was suspected to cause the immune system to overreact leading to potential liver and or kidney complications, leading to more severe reactions in obese people.... allegedly.

Can we stop saying "boost your immune system".  It doesn't work like that.  You don't "boost" your immune system.  To do so would cause auto-immune syndromes.  What you can do is make sure you are not suppressing your immune system with poor diet, alcohol, drugs, vitamin deficiency, over weight, stress etc. etc. etc.

The other thing that I still don't think gets mentioned enough is "getting covid" is not digital.  It's analogue.  It depends on your initial viral dose or over sustained exposure your viral load.  Obvious proof of this will take months to boil down if it ever can be, but data suggested that households who got infections tended to get the same "level" of infection.  When one person had a severe reaction the people they lived with had a potential of a severe reaction too.  So if, like a health worker in PPE you got a very minimal exposure (but some exposure) you might not even get sick as the virus might not get a hold.  However if a person with a severe case coughed in your face and you inhaled a lung full, you are more likely to have a severe reaction.

The reason this should be mentioned more often is to stop people shrugging and saying, "I'm probably
being/been exposed, I'll stop taking care."  So even if social distancing and good hygiene might not ultimately stop you getting covid, it could lower your overall exposure and give your immune system more of a fighting chance early on and lead to a less severe reaction.

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It makes sense that the total quantity of "poison" that you inhale matters to the immune system's ability to deal with it.

Zero999:

--- Quote from: nctnico on June 08, 2020, 09:38:10 am ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 08, 2020, 07:59:47 am ---If there was a significant risk from taking the standard dose sold in pharmacies, then it would only be available on prescription.

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That is wishfull thinking. A while ago I read a test in a consumer magazine and they found that there where several types of vitamin tablets which had harmful doses. If it isn't regulated it isn't regulated.

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In the UK and perhaps the EU, vitamin supplements are regulated. They mustn't contain anything harmful or make any false claims. No doubt there are harmful doses available, but there are plenty of people selling things which are dangerous and don't comply with the relevant regulations. Buy from a reputable pharmacy and you should be fine.
https://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/foodsupplementsenglish_0.pdf

If you're in a country which lacks proper regulations, then import from a reputable pharmacy in country which does.

Buriedcode:

--- Quote from: paulca on June 08, 2020, 10:35:35 am ---Can we stop saying "boost your immune system".  It doesn't work like that.  You don't "boost" your immune system.  To do so would cause auto-immune syndromes.  What you can do is make sure you are not suppressing your immune system with poor diet, alcohol, drugs, vitamin deficiency, over weight, stress etc. etc. etc.

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Thank you.  This myth simply will not die.  A "boosted" immune system is an inflammatory immune system: good in the short term for dealing with infection/injury, but causes collateral damage, and in the long term can significantly damage the circulatory system.  Thankfully, one cannot actually "boost" it, short of being exposed to lots of pathogens.   As as you alluded to, taking a supplement isn't going to improve an immune system that is hindered by poor diet, sleep etc..

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