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cdev:
Why did they spend all this time and energy on an idea that a 10 year old could have told them at the beginning wouldn't work? (and it seems Apple and Google recently told them but they are trying to spin it so it wouldnt be as obvious how stupid they were)
cdev:
Thats what they said in the other thread and I linked to it in the very first post, and if you read this most recent article Apple and Google said it too, that its impossible to tell if people were close enough to catch covid 19 indoors or not. Sources doesnt get any more authoritative than authors of the protocol.

Something thats used for medical use is a lot different than something thats used to unlock your screensaver or ring your mobile when you are at your desk


--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 20, 2020, 01:39:30 am ---
--- Quote ---Yup, thats what the inventors of BTLE were saying too.. that it was literally impossible to use it how they claimed they were going to.
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That must be why the Proximity Profile spec is really hard to find, then.

Oh, wait... PXP at bluetooth.org

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EEVblog:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 20, 2020, 01:39:30 am ---
--- Quote ---Yup, thats what the inventors of BTLE were saying too.. that it was literally impossible to use it how they claimed they were going to.
--- End quote ---

That must be why the Proximity Profile spec is really hard to find, then.
Oh, wait... PXP at bluetooth.org

--- End quote ---

Shame how on Apple iOS it doesn't work unless the app is on and in focus on the screen 100% of the time, which is how 0% of people use their phone.
That was one of the huge issues that made the Aussie tracing app useless.
There was talk that Apple had to release some sort or toolkit to allow it but had not done so last I heard.
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 25, 2020, 01:26:29 am ---
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 20, 2020, 01:39:30 am ---
--- Quote ---Yup, thats what the inventors of BTLE were saying too.. that it was literally impossible to use it how they claimed they were going to.
--- End quote ---

That must be why the Proximity Profile spec is really hard to find, then.
Oh, wait... PXP at bluetooth.org

--- End quote ---

Shame how on Apple iOS it doesn't work unless the app is on and in focus on the screen 100% of the time, which is how 0% of people use their phone.
That was one of the huge issues that made the Aussie tracing app useless.
There was talk that Apple had to release some sort or toolkit to allow it but had not done so last I heard.

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Apple's Bluetooth (BLE) implementation is very restrictive.  Android is better, but can be flaky and there are quite big differences in real world behaviour between different phones and OS revisions.  BLE isn't yet "industrial strength".
nctnico:
Over here the contact tracking app is about to be field tested. BTW In the NL the lockdown will be ended next week except for clubs and large events. This is much sooner than expected; so far the dot on the horizon was set at the 1st of September. Social distancing, testing and contact tracing will be used to prevent & monitor spread of Covid-19.
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