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| coppice:
--- Quote from: nctnico on June 27, 2020, 09:29:28 am ---You have to realise that a mask only helps against transmitting Covid-19; it doesn't help against receiving it because a mask doesn't cover your eyes. Eyes are (internally) directly connected to the nose. In theory one infected person without a mask can infect several people wearing a mask. For example if they travel together in a bus or visit a crowded place. I suspect that a large number of people are still attending large gatherings like churches in the US. Ofcourse the total lack of leadership in the US doesn't help either to make people understand what they should or shouldn't do. --- End quote --- If a mask doesn't give 100% protection its useless is really dumb thinking. Most infections start through the nose, so even if you haven't protected your eyes you have still reduced the likelihood of getting infected when you apply a suitable mask correctly, especially of you make the mask fit snuggly above your nose, ensuring the air flow due to breathing is not being drawn past your eyes. Partial protection is all any single measure gives you. Some reduce it a lot. Some reduce it a little. A surgeon doesn't say "I've got gloves on, so I don't need to wash my hands" (well, perhaps a few do, but I'd really try to avoid them letting them treat me). A mask on an infected person reduces their transmission rate far more than a mask on a healthy person protects them, but they both help. Because no one measure is 100% effective, you eliminate these infectious diseases by a package of measures that aggregate to a very low transmission rate. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: nctnico on June 27, 2020, 09:29:28 am ---I suspect that a large number of people are still attending large gatherings like churches in the US. Ofcourse the total lack of leadership in the US doesn't help either to make people understand what they should or shouldn't do. --- End quote --- I live and work within a stones throw from the Hillsong mothership church here in Sydney, filled with thousands of hugging touchy feely christian teenagers (most American students BTW) every day, and they all live and work in the local shopping center next door. I was absolutely sure we'd get a hotspot there, but it never happened, not a single case, I was stunned. Still can't explain why. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: coppice on June 27, 2020, 11:05:07 am --- --- Quote from: nctnico on June 27, 2020, 09:29:28 am ---You have to realise that a mask only helps against transmitting Covid-19; it doesn't help against receiving it because a mask doesn't cover your eyes. Eyes are (internally) directly connected to the nose. In theory one infected person without a mask can infect several people wearing a mask. For example if they travel together in a bus or visit a crowded place. I suspect that a large number of people are still attending large gatherings like churches in the US. Ofcourse the total lack of leadership in the US doesn't help either to make people understand what they should or shouldn't do. --- End quote --- If a mask doesn't give 100% protection its useless is really dumb thinking. --- End quote --- You are mistaken. Just read up on the how and why of masks and what kind of protection they offer. The key reasons to make masks mandatory is to prevent infected persons to spray the virus around. But since you don't know who is infected or not everyone should wear them. The non-medical / surgical masks are not designed / intended to keep stuff out. Try and use one while drilling in or grinding concrete and check your nose afterwards. You'll see it will do very little for keeping the dust out. Now imagine how well it works to keep a virus out. --- Quote from: EEVblog on June 27, 2020, 12:10:32 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on June 27, 2020, 09:29:28 am ---I suspect that a large number of people are still attending large gatherings like churches in the US. Ofcourse the total lack of leadership in the US doesn't help either to make people understand what they should or shouldn't do. --- End quote --- I live and work within a stones throw from the Hillsong mothership church here in Sydney, filled with thousands of hugging touchy feely christian teenagers (most American students BTW) every day, and they all live and work in the local shopping center next door. I was absolutely sure we'd get a hotspot there, but it never happened, not a single case, I was stunned. Still can't explain why. --- End quote --- With only a few infections out there the chance is low. But it isn't zero. It only takes one infected person to attend. There are plenty of examples to be found world wide where people wheren't so lucky. In the Netherlands one of the hot-spots is an area with a relatively high number of religious people. |
| rdl:
Many people in America think wrapping any random piece of just about anything across your face counts as a mask. A new fashion industry has sprung up making masks by attaching elastic strips to stylishly printed and colorful cloth. The ability to contain aerosol spray from the mouth or trap incoming matter is not a consideration. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: rdl on June 27, 2020, 02:36:35 pm ---Many people in America think wrapping any random piece of just about anything across your face counts as a mask. A new fashion industry has sprung up making masks by attaching elastic strips to stylishly printed and colorful cloth. The ability to contain aerosol spray from the mouth or trap incoming matter is not a consideration. --- End quote --- Some of the "fashion masks" have double lining and a pocket to put a filter in... |
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