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SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: james_s on July 02, 2020, 09:10:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: DrG on July 02, 2020, 08:18:54 pm ---20-May-2020, Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantos, boasts about how well Florida was doing with Corona Virus and how the partisan media was going on and on about how Florida would be a hot spot opening up...

02-July-2020 Florida reports OVER 10,000 new cases today and 5,000-10,000 new cases every day for the last seven days.

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This illustrates what I've been trying to tell people for months now. I live in what was the epicenter for Covid infection in the entire US, it happened here first and then the same thing has gone on to happen throughout other parts of the country. Covid is no big deal, only a few infections, nothing to see here, then suddenly the shit hits the fan and the infection rate goes almost vertical, by the time you realize anything is wrong it's way too late to stop. We've seen this over and over again, I don't know what makes people think their area will somehow be different.

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Hmmm... trying to think of a word that means the opposite of intelligent....     :D

nctnico:

--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 01, 2020, 03:53:56 pm ---We also have national minimum wage and that inhibits it, more micro management of it in some states/areas limits the ability further as well. Some trades are illegal(hired killer, prostitute in many areas, drug dealer etc...) but they're not strictly illegal it's just that in the course you're going to break the law. The idea is still there that the government can't/shouldn't tell me how I choose to trade my labor which is definitely being violated in its entirety for many people.

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That looks like a rather skewed definition of liberty. More like being anti-social / without respect for other people's wellbeing. The basic principle is that your freedom ends where another person's freedom starts. So you might want to argue that you are 'free' to do what you want but if that ends up hurting someone you have overstepped your boundaries. You might choose to become a hitman or drug-dealer but I'm quite sure you are aware that such professions end up hurting other people. The same goes for ignoring Covid-19 restrictions; you end up hurting other people.

maginnovision:

--- Quote from: nctnico on July 02, 2020, 10:37:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 01, 2020, 03:53:56 pm ---We also have national minimum wage and that inhibits it, more micro management of it in some states/areas limits the ability further as well. Some trades are illegal(hired killer, prostitute in many areas, drug dealer etc...) but they're not strictly illegal it's just that in the course you're going to break the law. The idea is still there that the government can't/shouldn't tell me how I choose to trade my labor which is definitely being violated in its entirety for many people.

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That looks like a rather skewed definition of liberty. More like being anti-social / without respect for other people's wellbeing. The basic principle is that your freedom ends where another person's freedom starts. So you might want to argue that you are 'free' to do what you want but if that ends up hurting someone you have overstepped your boundaries. You might choose to become a hitman or drug-dealer but I'm quite sure you are aware that such professions end up hurting other people. The same goes for ignoring Covid-19 restrictions; you end up hurting other people.

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Those professions, again, are illegal because you'll do illegal things in the course of them. I don't see the problem or why that's anti social?  Same with restrictions that don't change end results. Fireworks for instance don't even require people to group up to enjoy them so what is the harm? How about a beach, in the sterilizing sun(as far as covid is concerned), where people typically don't want to be on top of each other anyway(maybe your beaches are different)? What about wearing a mask on my own property just because I'm outside, does that really make sense? I'm sure you can justify any restrictions but you could also just live in China and not have to think for yourself at all.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---hose professions, again, are illegal because you'll do illegal things in the course of them. I don't see the problem or why that's anti social?
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If you knew you have HIV, would it be OK to express your freedom to have sex with whoever you want without telling them of your status?

And as often-cited, freedom of speech doesn't mean you can shout 'Fire!' in a packed theatre without consequences.

Neither of those involve illegal acts, so why is your freedom to pass covid19 around greater than someones freedom to not die prematurely because of your behaviour?

maginnovision:
It's literally legal here to have aids and not tell someone before you have unprotected sex. To me that's a criminal act but the US at large apparently disagrees. When did I ever say you should do these things or spread a disease? I'm saying restrictions which don't do anything aren't just idiotic but anti-america. However people at a long term care facility are commonly walking around my neighborhood during breaks with no masks which they should wear because they're constantly around high risk people and walking by people they couldn't know if they're carriers.

Again we're expecting everyone to catch it so protect those at risk and leave everyone else to their own devices. It'll sort itself out in a month rather than dragging it on forever. My local hospital would appreciate it if the constant mailers saying please come in are anything to go by.

Again, I'm high risk so I stay home. I'm honestly more worried about the government passing more trillion+ dollar bills than the Coronavirus.

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