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| DrG:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 29, 2020, 12:13:29 am --- --- Quote from: floobydust on June 29, 2020, 12:00:00 am ---It's the staff that quickly spread it around- they work shifts at multiple care facilities. --- End quote --- That's why I said they should have put effort into putting protection systems in place for the vulnerable. Just in Australia this thing was costing us around $4BN a week, that buys you a lot of protection measures. At the very least I would have liked to have seen a cop stationed at the entry to every retirement village restricting access, but it never happened, at least not here. One plus side of all of this is that people are more vigilant now, so that should help reduce spread of covid and all the other viruses. I would expect a reduction of flu related deaths this season because of this (we are in flu season here now). --- End quote --- "I would expect a reduction of flu related deaths this season because of this (we are in flu season here now)." Australia sees huge decrease in flu cases due to coronavirus measures... https://www.newscientist.com/article/2242113-australia-sees-huge-decrease-in-flu-cases-due-to-coronavirus-measures/ (of course that is a report that is 6 weeks old, but still good news) |
| nctnico:
Today some protesters against the lock-down measures in the Netherlands demonstrated how well they are informed. They held a protest in front of a building of a newspaper. Only problem for them was: the newspaper moved 8 years ago :-DD |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: DrG on July 06, 2020, 06:08:43 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on June 29, 2020, 12:13:29 am --- --- Quote from: floobydust on June 29, 2020, 12:00:00 am ---It's the staff that quickly spread it around- they work shifts at multiple care facilities. --- End quote --- That's why I said they should have put effort into putting protection systems in place for the vulnerable. Just in Australia this thing was costing us around $4BN a week, that buys you a lot of protection measures. At the very least I would have liked to have seen a cop stationed at the entry to every retirement village restricting access, but it never happened, at least not here. One plus side of all of this is that people are more vigilant now, so that should help reduce spread of covid and all the other viruses. I would expect a reduction of flu related deaths this season because of this (we are in flu season here now). --- End quote --- "I would expect a reduction of flu related deaths this season because of this (we are in flu season here now)." Australia sees huge decrease in flu cases due to coronavirus measures... https://www.newscientist.com/article/2242113-australia-sees-huge-decrease-in-flu-cases-due-to-coronavirus-measures/ (of course that is a report that is 6 weeks old, but still good news) --- End quote --- I doubt that. It is like unplugging the internet cable from your computer. Look, no more malware. But the anti-malware updates also stop. As I wrote before: resistance against mild flu virusses wears off over time so the longer you are getting no updates in the form of mild flu the harder you'll be hit. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: DrG on July 06, 2020, 06:08:43 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on June 29, 2020, 12:13:29 am --- --- Quote from: floobydust on June 29, 2020, 12:00:00 am ---It's the staff that quickly spread it around- they work shifts at multiple care facilities. --- End quote --- That's why I said they should have put effort into putting protection systems in place for the vulnerable. Just in Australia this thing was costing us around $4BN a week, that buys you a lot of protection measures. At the very least I would have liked to have seen a cop stationed at the entry to every retirement village restricting access, but it never happened, at least not here. One plus side of all of this is that people are more vigilant now, so that should help reduce spread of covid and all the other viruses. I would expect a reduction of flu related deaths this season because of this (we are in flu season here now). --- End quote --- "I would expect a reduction of flu related deaths this season because of this (we are in flu season here now)." Australia sees huge decrease in flu cases due to coronavirus measures... https://www.newscientist.com/article/2242113-australia-sees-huge-decrease-in-flu-cases-due-to-coronavirus-measures/ (of course that is a report that is 6 weeks old, but still good news) --- End quote --- Well it's good news that less people are dying from flu. --- Quote from: nctnico on July 06, 2020, 08:48:39 pm ---I doubt that. It is like unplugging the internet cable from your computer. Look, no more malware. But the anti-malware updates also stop. As I wrote before: resistance against mild flu virusses wears off over time so the longer you are getting no updates in the form of mild flu the harder you'll be hit. --- End quote --- I doubt immunity wears off that quickly. I believe it lasts for a couple of years after exposure. It will be interesting to see what happens next flu season. Another factor might be vaccination. Are more people getting the flu jab, than normal? In the UK, the government are going to be investing extra in flu vaccinations because they don't want people becoming infected with both flu and COVID-19, which will result in a much higher mortality rate. My employer offers all workers the flu vaccine for free. I normally don't bother, since I consider myself to be low risk and would rather those who need it more get it, but this year I might even pay for a vaccination, as I don't want both. Another thing is, I don't want to spread either virus. This pandemic has changed my attitude to illnes. In the past I've gone out when ill and spread it to more vulnerable people. A couple of years ago I went swimming with my nephews, sister and brother in law, when I felt a bit ill. I remember shivering in the pool and felt terrible afterwards. I probably had one day off work, at most, before I was well enough to return, but my brother in law soon fell ill and had to go to hospital. My sister blamed me for giving it to him, but I doubted it at the time. Now I think it's likely I had flu, but because I'm fit and healthy and he's obese, I had a much milder illness than him. I'll still be more careful, even when this COVID-19 pandemic is over. |
| DrG:
I was simply commenting that what Dave speculated might happen, may, in fact, be happening - based on that one news report and accompanying graph. I was not thinking about immunity issues at all but rather that it is due to an increased awareness of better sanitary habits - being careful not to spread your germs - a vigilance. Immunity from flu shots seems to be reported at about 6 months (https://www.immunize.org/askexperts/experts_inf.asp). Immunity from actually having the flu is less well known, but is much more likely to be much longer (https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/first-time-flu-infection-may-affect-lifetime-immunity/). Of course, all that immunity needs to be qualified as to whether immunity from one type generalizes to another variety. |
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