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james_s:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 08, 2020, 03:52:09 pm ---Are you saying it is OK to have a steady stream of injustices from an undisciplined and unprofessional police force as long as there are no riots?

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I don't see anything even remotely suggesting that in what he said.

His statement was a simple fact, bad things happen in the world on a regular basis because bad people exist, a few of those bad people are police officers, most are not. A few of the bad things involve the police, most do not. Acknowledging that something happens is not the same as saying that it's "ok" for bad things to happen. We should strive to minimize this sort of thing but it would be naive to suggest that it will ever be zero. It is fundamentally impossible to have a society in which there are no bad people. All we can do is continuously try to weed them out as they are caught.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: james_s on July 08, 2020, 05:40:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 08, 2020, 03:52:09 pm ---Are you saying it is OK to have a steady stream of injustices from an undisciplined and unprofessional police force as long as there are no riots?

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I don't see anything even remotely suggesting that in what he said.

His statement was a simple fact, bad things happen in the world on a regular basis because bad people exist, a few of those bad people are police officers, most are not. A few of the bad things involve the police, most do not. Acknowledging that something happens is not the same as saying that it's "ok" for bad things to happen. We should strive to minimize this sort of thing but it would be naive to suggest that it will ever be zero. It is fundamentally impossible to have a society in which there are no bad people. All we can do is continuously try to weed them out as they are caught.

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I guess I got caught up in this sentence, "The video showing police brutality was just the right spark at the right time. Many other gruesome videos have come and gone without more than a little grumbling in the press."

What he called a "spark" was actually an outrageous act of injustice carried out against a defenseless person, by agents of the state.  One reason people riot is because they have lost faith in justice being done in cases like this.  We have seen in the past how bad cops got let off the hook - it isn't a slam dunk that police brutality results in a bad outcome for the cops. 

The fact that other acts of great injustice could also cause have caused rioting is beside the point.

Injustice begets more injustice, and lays the foundations for the next riot.

I don't see any evidence that would suggest riots would happen anyway, without these kinds of incidents.

Thankfully, it also works the other way round - the situation will respond well to quick and efficient prosecutions, with fair outcomes.

maginnovision:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 08, 2020, 06:21:48 pm ---Thankfully, it also works the other way round - the situation will respond well to quick and efficient prosecutions, with fair outcomes.

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No it doesn't. Originally the outrage was he(the officer) wasn't arrested, then it was that the other officers weren't arrested, now it's that there are any police at all.

Same with the statues. They illegally pull down statues they don't like but start with confederates. Then they go to founding fathers, then even black abolitionists and they're targeting mount rushmore now. It literally is not ending and the only response we're seeing is more demands and more outrage.

Edit: This is not a political post(I didn't vote last cycle for either loser, and I won't this time either). This is giving more examples of the spreading COVID madness and continous outrage due to it.

DrG:

--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 08, 2020, 06:42:23 pm ---/---/
Same with the statues. They illegally pull down statues they don't like but start with confederates. Then they go to founding fathers, then even black abolitionists and they're targeting mount rushmore now. It literally is not ending and the only response we're seeing is more demands and more outrage.

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WOW.

It's a Impact of Corona Virus on Work thread not a pathetic pandering to the Orange Fungus thread. Are you trying to get the thread closed to avoid reading the reality about how phenomenally incompetent and bizarre the administration has mishandled the greatest pandemic in 100 years?

Nobody cares about a bunch of ^%$ing statues - they are WAYYYYYY down on the list pal - no matter how much you desperately need to create a a deception that THEY are out to get US and are statues.

james_s:

--- Quote from: DrG on July 08, 2020, 07:21:30 pm ---Nobody cares about a bunch of ^%$ing statues - they are WAYYYYYY down on the list pal - no matter how much you desperately need to create a a deception that THEY are out to get US and are statues.

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A lot of us care quite a bit about statues, even those of us who have long openly criticized the orange one. I'm personally worried because I abhor senseless vandalism and I wonder where it will end. Don't fall into the trap of believing there are only two camps and that you speak for everyone in one of them.

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