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| DrG:
--- Quote from: james_s on July 08, 2020, 07:55:00 pm --- --- Quote from: DrG on July 08, 2020, 07:21:30 pm ---Nobody cares about a bunch of ^%$ing statues - they are WAYYYYYY down on the list pal - no matter how much you desperately need to create a a deception that THEY are out to get US and are statues. --- End quote --- A lot of us care quite a bit about statues, even those of us who have long openly criticized the orange one. I'm personally worried because I abhor senseless vandalism and I wonder where it will end. Don't fall into the trap of believing there are only two camps and that you speak for everyone in one of them. --- End quote --- I speak for myself - ALWAYS. Don't presume to tell me what kind of trap I am going to fall into - while you are telling me how much you "AND A LOT OF US" care about statues - exactly whom are you speaking for with the "LOT OF US" - what a load of self-righteous sanctimonious BS You want to talk about statues - start a thread about statues. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 08, 2020, 06:42:23 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 08, 2020, 06:21:48 pm ---Thankfully, it also works the other way round - the situation will respond well to quick and efficient prosecutions, with fair outcomes. --- End quote --- No it doesn't. Originally the outrage was he(the officer) wasn't arrested, then it was that the other officers weren't arrested, now it's that there are any police at all. Same with the statues. They illegally pull down statues they don't like but start with confederates. Then they go to founding fathers, then even black abolitionists and they're targeting mount rushmore now. It literally is not ending and the only response we're seeing is more demands and more outrage. --- End quote --- It took way too long to arrest the Keystone Cops in the first instance... they were only arrested after the city was on fire. Where's the sense in that? Once this kind of thing is rolling, it can be very hard to put it back in the bottle, as we can see. The "trick" is that justice has to be fair, otherwise it loses the support of the population, and - here we are. |
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| james_s:
--- Quote from: DrG on July 08, 2020, 08:02:37 pm ---I speak for myself - ALWAYS. Don't presume to tell me what kind of trap I am going to fall into - while you are telling me how much you "AND A LOT OF US" care about statues - exactly whom are you speaking for with the "LOT OF US" - what a load of self-righteous sanctimonious BS You want to talk about statues - start a thread about statues. --- End quote --- Wow, it seems that I've hit a nerve. :o I don't particularly want to talk about statues, I was only responding to that other comment that seems to have really set you off. I had no idea that statues were such a hot button topic that would trigger somebody like that. You said right there "Nobody cares about a bunch of ^%$ing statues" which is objectively false, myself and many others do in fact care about statues, you were not speaking for yourself, you didn't say "I don't care about statues", you said "nobody cares about statues". "Us" = people including myself who care about statues, not to imply that statues are the only thing we care about but I do think it is a stunning display of ignorance to tear down statues of abolitionists and union generals in the name of racial equality. I mean it sends a pretty strong message that this is just a bunch of clueless angry people indiscriminately vandalizing public property and it harms an otherwise noble cause rather than helping. "A lot", ie virtually everyone I associate with, mosf of whom are left of center. |
| DrG:
--- Quote from: james_s on July 08, 2020, 08:10:04 pm --- --- Quote from: DrG on July 08, 2020, 08:02:37 pm ---I speak for myself - ALWAYS. Don't presume to tell me what kind of trap I am going to fall into - while you are telling me how much you "AND A LOT OF US" care about statues - exactly whom are you speaking for with the "LOT OF US" - what a load of self-righteous sanctimonious BS You want to talk about statues - start a thread about statues. --- End quote --- Wow, it seems that I've hit a nerve. :o I don't particularly want to talk about statues, I was only responding to that other comment that seems to have really set you off. I had no idea that statues were such a hot button topic that would trigger somebody like that. You said right there "Nobody cares about a bunch of ^%$ing statues" which is objectively false, myself and many others do in fact care about statues, you were not speaking for yourself, you didn't say "I don't care about statues", you said "nobody cares about statues". "Us" = people including myself who care about statues, not to imply that statues are the only thing we care about but I do think it is a stunning display of ignorance to tear down statues of abolitionists and union generals in the name of racial equality. I mean it sends a pretty strong message that this is just a bunch of clueless angry people indiscriminately vandalizing public property and it harms an otherwise noble cause rather than helping. "A lot", ie virtually everyone I associate with, mosf of whom are left of center. --- End quote --- Yeah yeah, you hit a nerve, you really got me upset blah blah blah....you said this and I said that and you caught me doing exactly what I accused you of doing and I am left of center and squirt and puke. IT IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT STATUES but there you are talking about US and THEM and statues. I don't care if you are left of the moon. I don't even care about your position on statues. If I did, I would contribute to your thread on statues - please go make one and I will be happy not to contribute to it and that will make you happy. Enough. |
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