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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
Zero999:
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--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 13, 2020, 07:55:25 pm ---These is the first cases of reinfection I've heard of, so I question their validity.
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You obviously haven't been looking, then. You can question their validity, but there are plenty of reports. There are also reports of studies of antibody measurements after people have recovered, showing the antibodies seem to tail off quickly.
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1) I've read about the reports of supposed reinfections, but haven't heard of concrete cases. So far they're all just people who've falsely tested positive, as tests pick up dead virus particle. This is not new.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/infection-control/recovered-covid-19-patients-who-retest-positive-aren-t-infectious-study-finds.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8295495/EXPLAINER-S-Korean-findings-suggest-reinfected-coronavirus-cases-false-positives.html
2) So what? Antibodies will tail off quickly, but their presence, or lack of doesn't always indicate immunity.
Someone who has previously had COVID-19 might have few antibodies, but that doesn't mean they'll catch it again of get as sick, as their immune system might still remember the antigen and produce more antibodies. On the other hand, they still might have antibodies, yet still lack immunity. It's a complex subject, which isn't fully understood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunological_memory
themadhippy:
nice to see the uk goverbent moving with there usual speed,face masks in shops to be compulsory tomorrow in 11 days time
PlainName:
--- Quote ---Can we really keep social distancing forever?
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We might have to. The bigger question is whether we can do lockdowns again. On the news right now it's saying California has just shut down...
I think we should recognise that this is no longer about covid19, which is just a manifestation of the scare stories various people in the know have been harping on about for years. We're going to see similar again and probably worse, so maybe we should be thinking about how we're going to cope.
One problem right now is the High Street getting pruned, with shops not being allowed to open, or having distancing requirements, etc. That's clearly not sustainable, but mainly because of the way we're used to shopping. Prior to this year the shops have been struggling as people move to shopping online, and it's been on the cards that at some point bricks and mortar just won't be able to compete on price, and the majority of people will be buying online. Covid19 might just be hastening that process along rather faster than expected.
Businesses seem to have twigged that working from home is actually not a bad idea, and now the government want people back at work (so they go to the shops) there's pushback from companies that don't actually want their employees back in an office. Those shops will include cafes and the like which have only sprung up to cater for loads of people being employed in town centers - it's not like people choose to work at a place because a Costa is next door. Perhaps it would be better to just go with the flow and accept that town centers are not going to be full to overflowing, that employees are spread over the suburbs, and then when the next pandemic hits we won't have to go through the "don't go shopping" and then "please go shopping" phases again.
It seems that currently the emphasis is to get back to where we were, doing what we did, 7 months ago. Fine if this was a one-off but a bit short-sighted if it's not. So, if not actual 'social distancing', masks when out and about should become normal, probably. Even if there's no pandemic they should help with flu and colds.
coppice:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 13, 2020, 07:55:25 pm ---Can we really keep social distancing forever?
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If you are truly British you have always socially distanced. Why would you ever stop? Just to be difficult, in true British style?
james_s:
--- Quote from: coppice on July 14, 2020, 02:29:32 am ---If you are truly British you have always socially distanced. Why would you ever stop? Just to be difficult, in true British style?
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My heritage is about 3/4 British, maybe that's why the social distancing part hasn't bothered me too much. :D
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