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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: paulca on July 14, 2020, 07:36:00 am ---Being brutal, just as nature is. The No. 1 problem the planet has is too many humans. Nature is starting to take care of that. If there were less of us, it would be easier to deal with - less population density.
The opposition to this is that capitalism requires an expanding population so that the growth junkies in suits can keep their graphs going up even when markets are saturated. Just breed more customers.
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For years I was saying lets put something in the water and you blokes wouldn't listen.
;)
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on July 14, 2020, 07:43:48 am ---
--- Quote from: paulca on July 14, 2020, 07:36:00 am ---Being brutal, just as nature is. The No. 1 problem the planet has is too many humans. Nature is starting to take care of that. If there were less of us, it would be easier to deal with - less population density.
The opposition to this is that capitalism requires an expanding population so that the growth junkies in suits can keep their graphs going up even when markets are saturated. Just breed more customers.
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For years I was saying lets put something in the water and you blokes wouldn't listen.
;)
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I think they already did! :D
coppice:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on July 14, 2020, 07:43:48 am ---
--- Quote from: paulca on July 14, 2020, 07:36:00 am ---Being brutal, just as nature is. The No. 1 problem the planet has is too many humans. Nature is starting to take care of that. If there were less of us, it would be easier to deal with - less population density.
The opposition to this is that capitalism requires an expanding population so that the growth junkies in suits can keep their graphs going up even when markets are saturated. Just breed more customers.
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For years I was saying lets put something in the water and you blokes wouldn't listen.
;)
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They did put something in the water, just not in the public supply. Maybe you were not specific enough. :)
maginnovision:
--- Quote from: nctnico on July 14, 2020, 07:43:33 am ---
--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 14, 2020, 02:57:11 am ---Los Angeles, and to some degree all of California, has just about gone back to full lockdown as of today. Having income coming from Hollywood it's pretty sad.
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Yeah. I'm starting to notice new episodes of TV shows getting delayed.
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Yea... My wife and I may need new fast food careers. Turns out we can't survive without any income. :palm:
Zero999:
--- Quote from: coppice on July 14, 2020, 02:29:32 am ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 13, 2020, 07:55:25 pm ---Can we really keep social distancing forever?
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If you are truly British you have always socially distanced. Why would you ever stop? Just to be difficult, in true British style?
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Tell that to those pissheads who used to go to nightclubs and pubs, spreading various diseases, back when they were properly open, with no social distancing.
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on July 14, 2020, 02:08:48 am ---
--- Quote ---Can we really keep social distancing forever?
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We might have to. The bigger question is whether we can do lockdowns again. On the news right now it's saying California has just shut down...
I think we should recognise that this is no longer about covid19, which is just a manifestation of the scare stories various people in the know have been harping on about for years. We're going to see similar again and probably worse, so maybe we should be thinking about how we're going to cope.
One problem right now is the High Street getting pruned, with shops not being allowed to open, or having distancing requirements, etc. That's clearly not sustainable, but mainly because of the way we're used to shopping. Prior to this year the shops have been struggling as people move to shopping online, and it's been on the cards that at some point bricks and mortar just won't be able to compete on price, and the majority of people will be buying online. Covid19 might just be hastening that process along rather faster than expected.
Businesses seem to have twigged that working from home is actually not a bad idea, and now the government want people back at work (so they go to the shops) there's pushback from companies that don't actually want their employees back in an office. Those shops will include cafes and the like which have only sprung up to cater for loads of people being employed in town centers - it's not like people choose to work at a place because a Costa is next door. Perhaps it would be better to just go with the flow and accept that town centers are not going to be full to overflowing, that employees are spread over the suburbs, and then when the next pandemic hits we won't have to go through the "don't go shopping" and then "please go shopping" phases again.
It seems that currently the emphasis is to get back to where we were, doing what we did, 7 months ago. Fine if this was a one-off but a bit short-sighted if it's not. So, if not actual 'social distancing', masks when out and about should become normal, probably. Even if there's no pandemic they should help with flu and colds.
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Well the UK government have announced to date that masks will be mandated in shops by the 24th July.
I agree with your points about the pandemic accelerating the move to online shopping and that many will continue with working from home, even when this is over. Regardless of the pandemic, the government should be encouraging working from home, where possible, because it will reduce pollution and CO2 emissions.
We have a housing shortage, so why not convert those empty shops to homes? Counceles are reluctant to do this because they get business rates from shops, but if they're empty, they'd be better off getting council tax from people living there, rather than nothing.
Working from home and shopping online will cost jobs in the short term, but in the long run, they'll be good for society.
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