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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
Ed.Kloonk:
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--- Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on July 21, 2020, 10:27:38 pm ---<Anonymous YouTube link>
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Neat! Took you about 10 seconds to post that, and in return you expect me (not to mention everyone else) to waste more than 5 minutes viewing it. But it's worth it because... well, why?
What is it about?
What point is he going to make?
Who the hell is he?
Why should his opinion on whatever it is be relevant or meaningful?
Assuming all the above are attention-grabbing, why do we have to waste 5 minutes watching a video to understand whatever it is he's wibbling on about instead of, say, you posting a 3-line precis we can cover in a few seconds. Oh, that's right, it would waste your time rather than ours.
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It's not a tutorial on how to mince words, I can tell you that much.
Buriedcode:
Why are most assuming that wearing a mask is about protecting the wearer from infection? When it is far more important in preventing the wearer potentially spreading the virus...
Your "risk" isn't entirely down to your actions, a fair chunk of it is how others behave, and likewise, their risk, is at least partly down to your behavior.
PlainName:
--- Quote ---Why are most assuming that wearing a mask is about protecting the wearer from infection?
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Because protecting others from oneself is an alien concept1. At least, if it involves any more than slight hassle it is. Given that, why else would anyone wear one but to protect themselves? Ergo, masks protect the wearer.
Add to that the fact that masks are normally seen in medical establishments, and the assumption there has to be it protects the medical professionals. So, masks obviously protect the wearer.
Which they do, of course. The real question is: by how much. It might not be very much at all, but every little helps :)
[1] Thought experiment: you've been notified that you were associated with someone who subsequently tested positive. The correct thing to do is to self-isolate for 10 days, but doing so will cause you serious aggro - you won't get paid and you might lose your job because of the time off. Do you, nevertheless, self-isolate or justify not doing that because you feel fine and promise to hold your breath when speaking to anyone anyway?
maginnovision:
Easy for me I'm not allowed to work anyway. I also wear R95 masks that fit so should have both way protection. I get tested soon for COVID since I need a negative result to get VO2 max so time will tell if it has worked(or if I haven't been around enough people with COVID).
Zero999:
--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 21, 2020, 03:26:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 21, 2020, 09:41:43 am ---I wonder if motorcycle helmets are an acceptable face covering? Shops have tended to deny those wearing them entry, for security reasons, but a helmet, with screen and visor, will provide good protection both against spreading and contracting COVID-19, so should be acceptable.
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We already have mask laws here and the couple of times I've been places I haven't taken my helmet(with chin curtain installed) off and I haven't had any problems. Nobody says anything. However, when I took a walk with my kids without a mask(it was an impromptu walk when we were already playing outside our home) I walked by the police station and parked police cars with police inside and nobody said anything then either. I guess it depends on how strongly enforced it all is. If they go full authoritarian you'll probably need a mask with your head isolated in a helmet.
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It might also depend on the situation. There's little point in wearing a mask outside, unless it's crowded, but it's more important indoors. I don't wear one outside and the law which is going to come into force at the end of the week, in the UK, will only apply to shops. If mask wearing outdoors, as well as indoors, is compulsory where you live, they're probably less likely to enforce it outside, especially if you're not in a crowd.
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on July 22, 2020, 03:02:08 am ---
--- Quote ---Why are most assuming that wearing a mask is about protecting the wearer from infection?
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Because protecting others from oneself is an alien concept1. At least, if it involves any more than slight hassle it is. Given that, why else would anyone wear one but to protect themselves? Ergo, masks protect the wearer.
Add to that the fact that masks are normally seen in medical establishments, and the assumption there has to be it protects the medical professionals. So, masks obviously protect the wearer.
Which they do, of course. The real question is: by how much. It might not be very much at all, but every little helps :)
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I think most people are aware that face coverings are to protect others, rather than the wearer.
Medical professionals don't wear surgical masks to protect themselves, but their patients.
--- Quote ---[1] Thought experiment: you've been notified that you were associated with someone who subsequently tested positive. The correct thing to do is to self-isolate for 10 days, but doing so will cause you serious aggro - you won't get paid and you might lose your job because of the time off. Do you, nevertheless, self-isolate or justify not doing that because you feel fine and promise to hold your breath when speaking to anyone anyway?
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Fortunately that's not the case for me, as I'd get sick pay, but it is for many people. Attitudes also change. If you'd asked me that four months ago, I would have said no. I only self-isolated when I got a cought before lockdown, because my team leader told me not to come in the following day. Now I would still self-isolate, even if I lost a considerable amount of money, because I know it's the right thing to do.
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