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themadhippy:

--- Quote ---Just use the car.
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And those who cant  drive due to medical  or financial reasons ?

Zero999:

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--- Quote ---should wear a visor, which provides more COVID-19 protection than a surgical mask
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I noticed that many people wear these visors instead of masks, often at an angle such that it barely comes level with their chin, and wonder how on earth that's providing any protection for the wearer or whoever they are projectile-breathing at. Can you explain?

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Yes, it's bollocks:

https://www.insider.com/face-shields-did-not-protect-people-from-coronavirus-swiss-outbreak-2020-7


--- Quote ---A health department in Switzerland is now warning against wearing plastic face shields without a mask after a recent outbreak in which those wearing only shields were infected with coronavirus, while people wearing masks were fine.
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Oh, so it looks like visors don't provide as much protection as I origionally thought. It also implies masks provide more protection for the wearer, than I thought too. I'm happy to admit I'm wrong about this.

I'll wear both a mask and visor then. Actually I think I'll skip the visor and wear some goggles, which will easilly fit in my bag.

I wonder if a scarf wrapped round the neck, to fill the gap around the visor would have helped? It might be more comfortable, than a face covering and offer a similar level of protection.

coppice:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 22, 2020, 02:11:36 pm ---Oh, so it looks like visors don't provide as much protection as I origionally thought. It also implies masks provide more protection for the wearer, than I thought too. I'm happy to admit I'm wrong about this.

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Visors provide a high degree of protection, but not from breath. Dentists have been wearing them since AIDS first appeared, to catch spray from working on a patient's mouth. When you look at the amount of spray they catch, its surprising dentists didn't always wear these things just to keep clean. Nurses and other medical people have been wearing them for years, because again they are at risk from spray coming from patients during procedures.

maginnovision:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 22, 2020, 08:30:35 am ---
--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 21, 2020, 03:26:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 21, 2020, 09:41:43 am ---I wonder if motorcycle helmets are an acceptable face covering? Shops have tended to deny those wearing them entry, for security reasons, but a helmet, with screen and visor, will provide good protection both against spreading and contracting COVID-19, so should be acceptable.

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We already have mask laws here and the couple of times I've been places I haven't taken my helmet(with chin curtain installed) off and I haven't had any problems. Nobody says anything. However, when I took a walk with my kids without a mask(it was an impromptu walk when we were already playing outside our home) I walked by the police station and parked police cars with police inside and nobody said anything then either. I guess it depends on how strongly enforced it all is. If they go full authoritarian you'll probably need a mask with your head isolated in a helmet.

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It might also depend on the situation. There's little point in wearing a mask outside, unless it's crowded, but it's more important indoors. I don't wear one outside and the law which is going to come into force at the end of the week, in the UK, will only apply to shops. If mask wearing outdoors, as well as indoors, is compulsory where you live, they're probably less likely to enforce it outside, especially if you're not in a crowd.

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I was actually indoors. One time I had to get some brake fluid from the auto parts store, one time I had to get kids tylenol from the pharmacy, and another I had to go to the grocery store I don't even remember what I got. The rest of the times I was going to the bank.

I actually think an R\N95 mask and safety glasses with a foam gasket(often used with motorcycles so your eyes don't dry out) are pretty reasonable protection assuming you don't go home, take your stuff off, and pick your nose or teeth. Of course you can't buy those masks right now(around here anyway). I just hope we can get through this before I lose my house.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---Actually I think I'll skip the visor and wear some goggles
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That would get my vote too since, as you say, they are more easily stored and carried.


--- Quote ---I wonder if a scarf wrapped round the neck
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My understanding is it depends. Typically, no, because you want more than one layer and each layer to be a different weave. Ideally with a non-woven layer sandwiched, too.

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