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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
bd139:
Yep. Spock had it right...
We're just queuing up to burn 99% of the population instead of 1% at the moment. Doesn't seem justifiable. But that's what happens when the media deals in body counts.
nctnico:
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--- Quote from: james_s on April 13, 2020, 06:42:30 am ---I'd bet that things will start to relax in some areas within the next month or so, for the total threat to go away it will be longer but if we stay in lockdown like this for most of the year we are screwed either way.
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So it's a fine line that must be towed her. We had our dumb arse NSW Premier come and and state that they won't be releasing social distancing rules "until a vaccine is found". The entire country laughed at her ignorance.
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Actually keeping the social distancing up until there is a vaccine (or even better: a remedy against people's lungs filling up with fluid) is a very good idea. Most of the world is going to do just that. I don't see what is funny about it. If you look at the graphs from the experts you can see getting rid of Covid19 is a long term process. In the order of 1 or 2 years.
What is happening right now is getting shops and factories modified so people can work and keep a distance at the same time. Together with rigorous testing and tracking apps that should be enough to control the outbreak while returning to a business as usual situation. But likely ther advice to work from home as much as possible is going to stand until next year.
bd139:
I don't know if it's a good idea or not.
The thing that gets me is there isn't enough data to draw any conclusions yet. We don't have accurate health outcome statistics (it has turned into a political shit show) or accurate testing available. Now we get to the plateau of deaths and then the question is: now what? There is actually no way to prove causality between the lockdown and the outcome. For all we know the disease itself may have burned out and we were all quietly infected and we're doing something counterintuitive. No tests, no way of knowing. But the body count vs admission count is pretty high still, which is a statistically useless figure for overall impact analysis. All it does is drive headlines and healthcare capacity (the latter of which was reduced massively by politicians!)
We've already shut down half the health services here so there are going to be secondary outcomes. Mental health (lots of suicides already), routine procedures missing and health outcomes escalated, abuse and rising crime from the desperation of those furloughed and fired. Not to mention economic ruin.
At some point, we cross a line between killing 50,000 here now and 100,000 in the next 10 years. Informal stats put the austerity death toll at around 130,000 here already and that is nothing compared to the next decade of hell we're going to get from this.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: bd139 on April 13, 2020, 10:18:28 am ---I don't know if it's a good idea or not.
The thing that gets me is there isn't enough data to draw any conclusions yet. We don't have accurate health outcome statistics (it has turned into a political shit show) or accurate testing available. Now we get to the plateau of deaths and then the question is: now what? There is actually no way to prove causality between the lockdown and the outcome.
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You are wrong here. There is lots of data and virologists use advanced models (which include virus mutation, seasonal influences, mortality, etc, etc) to create reasonably accurate best and worst case predictions of how an outbreak progresses. Just be patient. Lock down is only phase 1 which won't be in effect very long.
paulca:
I have been working from home partially since the beginning of March, full time since the middle of March. Had the last week off though. I like my home office.
6 feet of monitors. 2x34" 21:9 UltraWides gives me plenty of neck exercise! Top of the range PC (as of April 2018), better equipment than in work where I have an i5 laptop and two normal monitors.
Our CEO did conference calls for each team a few weeks back. Company is still looking good. We do a lot of software for "capital markets", ie. banks and trading companies. Most of our business (in our department) is remote anyway.
So while bonuses and pay rises have been deferred to October and the CEO himself has dropped his salary to £1 per month, it's still mostly ticking along.
He did mention that they were mid planning the "2.0" for the company direction and the fact the company is still thriving while the building is completely closed down has made them change their minds on a lot of things.
A lot of companies who found this new working harder will struggle to adapt, but we already have the skills to do so.
Personally though, it's pretty hard. I have been suffering from depression for years and progressively climbing further and further under my rock with work being my only social interaction on an average week. While I don't mind my own company, doing this for 4 weeks straight now is difficult and I have had to be strict with myself to not turn to alcohol or worse. Trying to force myself to get up and do things, even on my week off. I'm looking forward to starting back to even remote working after a week off now.
My daughter is allowed to visit which helps. It's been the first few times she has been left with me alone, think that means I am actually an adult now? Nah. Silly thoughts.
Stay safe everyone and as we have all been hit hard by this, lets just take the recession on the chin and NO MORE BAIL OUTS! Let them fail. Let them die. If their services are really requried business will spring back and boom anew. New companies will be born to replace those that died. This is perfectly natural and a good way to get rid of those "too big to fail" monsters that hold us all to randsom while paying multi-million salarys and bonuses.
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