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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
SilverSolder:
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It's a Y2K thing again. Beat it with decisive and robust action and everyone questions what the issue was. Could be worth reading this article from The Grauniad, which notes that we in the UK are now suffering what we saw as horrific over in Italy and Spain because we didn't act soon enough in a robust enough way. The problem here is that we can't hold back and see what it's going to do because by the time that's apparent it's too late to do anything about it. It's not a question of is the cure worse than the disease, it's a question of how much we want to bet on an unknown risk level. And we are playing with people's lives, not money or fame or anything.
Intellectually a few hundred thousand dead isn't that big of a deal when you look at the world population (although that's now, with everyone scared shitless enough to take precautions - what would it be if we weren't?). But this is what separates us from animals, isn't it? That we value someone's life more than anything else. Even those old folks who have lost their minds and don't know what's going on, who have serious underlying issues as well, we take care of them and let them die in dignity when, intellectually and monetarily, it would surely be better to off them as soon as they become a net resource sink.
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Every old person is someone's parent, uncle, or aunt - means something to someone's life. E.g. my grandmother had a lot of influence on me when I was a kid/ teenager. She was just calmer and more far seeing than my parents, and I found she often made more sense... Experience and wisdom is underrated these days.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on April 13, 2020, 01:36:54 pm ---Every old person is someone's parent, uncle, or aunt - means something to someone's life. E.g. my grandmother had a lot of influence on me when I was a kid/ teenager. She was just calmer and more far seeing than my parents, and I found she often made more sense... Experience and wisdom is underrated these days.
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True but at some point old people are also clever enough to understand that resuscitation and/or being put on a ventilator is not going to make their quality of life better - if they make it-. A couple of days ago I read an article saying many old people are sending DNR / do not ventilate statements to their doctors.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: nctnico on April 13, 2020, 11:40:30 am ---Churches and gyms can also spread people over the day. Modern technology like apps can help to allow people to plan a visit.
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Hardly anyone is going to do that, and you can't enforce it legally, and no business is going to want to enforce it themselves because they know it will limit patronage.
Gyms for example are almost always fit around peoples work/life schedules, e.g. 9:30am classes is the Yummy Mummy hour after they drop the kids off at school. Lunch time classes are work break, 5:30pm-7:00pm is after work etc. These thing won't magically change much.
Churches are Sunday group affairs, always have been always will be, you won't change that.
Bottom line is life has to return to pretty much "normal", and it has to do so fairly quickly whether people like it or not.
People thinking there will be some radical permanent "new normal" are delusional. People are creatures of habit and they will return.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: nctnico on April 13, 2020, 11:40:30 am ---However the people depending on tourism are going to be hit hard. I don't see a way around that especially in places where they have to rely on foreigners.
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Hardest hit by far.
And they are saying international travel restrictions will remain in place until the end of the year and I can believe that, as that's a "no brainer" political decision.
It may also be scheduled, like say essential business travel only before then, but once the flood gates open people will pour back into travel because it will be so cheap.
mrflibble:
--- Quote from: paulca on April 13, 2020, 12:41:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on April 13, 2020, 11:34:31 am ---Doesn't one hope for the best but plan for the worst?
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There will be movies ...
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Agreed, that is definitely going to be the worst. :(
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