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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
SiliconWizard:
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--- Quote from: nctnico on April 13, 2020, 11:40:30 am ---However the people depending on tourism are going to be hit hard. I don't see a way around that especially in places where they have to rely on foreigners.
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Hardest hit by far.
And they are saying international travel restrictions will remain in place until the end of the year and I can believe that, as that's a "no brainer" political decision.
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Yep. And some countries/regions particularly depend on tourism. This is going to be a complete disaster for them.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 13, 2020, 02:22:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on April 13, 2020, 11:40:30 am ---Churches and gyms can also spread people over the day. Modern technology like apps can help to allow people to plan a visit.
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Hardly anyone is going to do that, and you can't enforce it legally, and no business is going to want to enforce it themselves because they know it will limit patronage.
Gyms for example are almost always fit around peoples work/life schedules, e.g. 9:30am classes is the Yummy Mummy hour after they drop the kids off at school. Lunch time classes are work break, 5:30pm-7:00pm is after work etc. These thing won't magically change much.
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Over here they are allowing a limited number of people inside shops to adhere to governments rules. Works pretty well and it is enforced legally. The same can work for gyms, etc. And don't forget: people who work from home can create their own schedule. They are no longer bound to a '9 to 5' rythm. From a biological standpoint there is no rule which says humans (like to) work best from 9 to 5.
--- Quote ---People thinking there will be some radical permanent "new normal" are delusional. People are creatures of habit and they will return.
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IMHO you are underestimating the flexibility of people. Sure there will be a very vocal minorty shouting that everything used to be better in the past.
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 13, 2020, 02:22:32 pm ---People thinking there will be some radical permanent "new normal" are delusional. People are creatures of habit and they will return.
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I agree. But people thinking/talking about a "new normal" should also ask themselves what they really wish for.
Many are talking about a "better" world with more reasoned economy, less waste, less pollution, less globalization.. all of which seem pretty unlikely past a short-term situation, but that may sound "nice".
What they are consistently omitting though is that the only permanent change, if there is any (which I have no clue about at this point), for the "new normal", is likely to be one of the most severe dent in individual freedom that humankind has ever experienced (excepting slavery). In that regard, I certainly do hope things are going to get back to "normal". If the new normal is to all live in bubbles linked to a giant virtual network, no thanks.
paulca:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 13, 2020, 03:54:34 pm ---If the new normal is to all live in bubbles linked to a giant virtual network, no thanks.
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We already were. It's just that reality has much higher definition.
peter-h:
Tourism can return, but there will be safeguards e.g. thermal cameras at airports. Greece had these c. 10 years ago when another epidemic was going on. That takes out a good % of people, because nearly all people will still otherwise travel when ill. They don't want to lose the money. This was hugely evident in Feb/Mar in the Alpine ski scene, when so many still travelled even when an imminent shutdown was obviously likely, and the lack of action on their return spread the virus nicely.
Then there are likely to be test certificates, which may be acceptable if done say within past week. And an immunity certificate will be even better.
The incentive to set this up will be massive. A number of European countries get tens of % of GDP from tourism.
Tourism is not the only thing here. Even going to a gym or fitness classes is a massive infection spreader. The establishments will need to do something otherwise most of their clients will drop out. Classes can be run (and already are) over video but a gym can't :)
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