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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
coppice:
--- Quote from: peter-h on April 13, 2020, 04:37:12 pm ---Tourism can return, but there will be safeguards e.g. thermal cameras at airports.
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This is nothing new, so we can look at history. During SARS, and swine flu, and bird flu, and MERS IR thermometers and cameras were widely deployed at borders and transport interchanges. They continued to be used after the epidemic went away, but as they aged and failed they were not replaced. So, COVID-19 appeared, and everyone had to re-equip as fast as they could.
james_s:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 13, 2020, 03:54:34 pm ---I agree. But people thinking/talking about a "new normal" should also ask themselves what they really wish for.
Many are talking about a "better" world with more reasoned economy, less waste, less pollution, less globalization.. all of which seem pretty unlikely past a short-term situation, but that may sound "nice".
What they are consistently omitting though is that the only permanent change, if there is any (which I have no clue about at this point), for the "new normal", is likely to be one of the most severe dent in individual freedom that humankind has ever experienced (excepting slavery). In that regard, I certainly do hope things are going to get back to "normal". If the new normal is to all live in bubbles linked to a giant virtual network, no thanks.
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My grandparents grew up during the great depression and from what I remember them saying, the experience shaped an entire generation and made an impression that lasted the rest of their lives. I think there will certainly be permanent shifts after all this, well as permanent as anything is. It would not surprise me if it all but ends hugging in social situations (fine by me, I hate getting hugged by friends) and severely curtails old customs like shaking hands. Those who know someone who dies are probably going to get a more lasting impression than those who don't.
james_s:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 13, 2020, 07:50:22 am ---We are on the verge of easing restrictions here.
They will likely stage restrictions, but even then conflicts will remains. For example, if you re-open shops and restaurants then that also forces them to remove the two persons congregating in public rule etc.
But yeah, they have said "social distancing" is likely to remain for the rest of the year. But then how do the handle say restaurants and movie theaters? Do you only allows two people per seat/table separated by X distance. What about food court chairs?
It starts getting ridiculous very fast, and we have already had many examples of police abusing their powers for stupid simple things. They can't keep this up for another year, people will just start to ignore any rules eventually. At the moment it's this novel thing (I'm here are week!), give give it another few months and people will be really sick and tired of it all and will get back to their lives regardless of any laws.
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I think there are many compromises that can be made, and places like restaurants I would expect will largely do them voluntarily in order to prevent another forced shutdown. For example they could reduce the number of tables temporarily, remove every other booth table for example, allow groups like families that fit at one table to come in but don't do large group gatherings. As we shift into summer in this region outdoor seating becomes an option at many restaurants and then having something like an attendant who sanitizes door handles and restroom fixtures immediately after use can go a long way toward mitigating the risk.
There is a very large range between "the old way" and the total lockdowns we have today. It's too bad we didn't have the foresight to take such actions ahead of time.
nctnico:
Another thing to consider is that many people are going through a mourning process due to the sudden change. Seeing any upside is hard in such a condition.
PlainName:
--- Quote ---Bottom line is life has to return to pretty much "normal", and it has to do so fairly quickly whether people like it or not.
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That assumes this will end. It won't - this particular pandemic will, but there will be another. And other things - 3 months ago a nuke exchange seemed a possibility 'but not really'. Now, those disaster movies aren't just fiction any more but really happen. We would be reckless if we didn't prepare more, whether that's maintaining central stockpiles at levels they should be, not firing the people that work out what to do and how to do it when there's a disaster, or just putting aside an extra can of beans each week. It's going to be that way at least until the current generation get to be old fuddies doing things their grandkids think silly, just like we don't really appreciate why our old folks keep the skin on carrots and save stale bread, etc.
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