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Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus
maginnovision:
In some cases trying to adapt can help, in other cases the adaptation is getting rid of a failing investment. There are multiple areas in the US where food banks are failing because too many people are already falling back on them.
james_s:
--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on April 14, 2020, 01:25:20 am ---I think this is one of the key points that is overlooked. The massive over reaction shutting down the economy has put a lot of people out of work, many not on government salaries but with jobs are looking at an uncertain further and possibly reduction in pay. People are not going to have the same disposable income and along with increases in prices even for basics like food and housing many of these businesses will not be profitable and they will not be replaced.
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It hasn't been overloooked, we are keenly aware of it and it sucks. At one point I agreed that it was an overreaction but since then it has become obvious that it is not. Look at what's happening in the US, we are now far out in the lead in the number of infections and I believe we are now the world leaders in Covid deaths and this is despite the lockdowns. New York in particular is a mess right now. Yes the shutdown is brutal and yes if it goes on too long it will throw us into a massive depression but some drastic action was necessary. Here in the Seattle area we were on trajectory to quickly run out of ventilators which would have forced the sort of triage process that happened in Italy but we managed to avoid this and "only" 500 or so people have died in this state so far. Mind you there are 50 states so 500 in each one would still be 25,000 deaths and the numbers are still increasing. The shutdown is a bit like using chemotherapy to kill cancer, you just have to hope the cancer dies out before the chemo kills the whole body.
We certainly need to get people back to work soon but it needs to be done very carefully, perhaps everyone possible should have protective gear and new protocols. If we are careless about the process it could be the equivalent of taking antibiotics and stopping as soon as you feel better instead of continuing the full prescription, the bacteria can regroup and take over again, this time stronger and more resistant.
pawanranta:
The rebooting of economy in phased manned is the only option. Moreover, we need to adapt and learn how to fight the epidemics and keep the economy running.
blacksheeplogic:
--- Quote from: james_s on April 14, 2020, 04:00:12 am ---It hasn't been overloooked, we are keenly aware of it and it sucks. At one point I agreed that it was an overreaction but since then it has become obvious that it is not. Look at what's happening in the US, we are now far out in the lead in the number of infections and I believe we are now the world leaders in Covid deaths and this is despite the lockdowns. New York in particular is a mess right now. Yes the shutdown is brutal and yes if it goes on too long it will throw us into a massive depression but some drastic action was necessary.
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Take a look at how some other countries like Switzerland have dealt with it. Placing everyone under house arrest is unnecessary, it's not the ONLY way. For countries that have gone that way, now the question is how do you roll it back.
james_s:
--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on April 14, 2020, 04:29:01 am ---Take a look at how some other countries like Switzerland have dealt with it. Placing everyone under house arrest is unnecessary, it's not the ONLY way. For countries that have gone that way, now the question is how do you roll it back.
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Other countries are not Switzerland, it is a tiny nation with a very homogeneous population. The USA has more than 575 times the land area with almost 40 times the population, it's is a network of semi-autonomous states with a highly diverse population of widely varying regional cultures and a narcissistic man-child for a leader. We got caught with our pants down and were utterly unprepared, it was a real eye opener, I had no idea just how unprepared we were. Some of the individual state leaders have shined during this catastrophe while much of the federal government flails helplessly and says something different each day.
I can't really speak for what is happening in other nations, we've got our hands full here and I try not to be the stereotypical American sticking my nose in everyone elses business. Just as what works for Switzerland may not work for us, what works for us may not work for you.
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