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| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on April 14, 2020, 04:31:41 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on April 14, 2020, 04:30:18 pm --- --- Quote from: boffin on April 14, 2020, 04:26:10 pm --- --- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on April 14, 2020, 04:29:01 am ---Take a look at how some other countries like Switzerland have dealt with it. Placing everyone under house arrest is unnecessary, it's not the ONLY way. For countries that have gone that way, now the question is how do you roll it back. --- End quote --- I'm not exactly sure that Switzerland is a shining example. For a tiny country with a tiny population (8.6M) they still have 26,000 cases. I'm pretty sure if you do the math, you'll find the infection rate per 1000 people is higher in Switzerland than it is in the USA (which isn't exactly a example of how to do things). Countries that have adopted early, wide-spread stay at home orders have done much better. --- End quote --- Nonsense. It is general knowledge that the infection numbers say nothing because they depend on the amount of testing done. And not every country is testing to the same extend. The number of hospitalisations is a much better indicator. --- End quote --- The number of deaths is probably the most serious indicator... there is a time lag, of course. --- End quote --- And the exact causes of deaths is also highly questionable. Can we please stop talking about the stats on this thread, it's about the impact on our work and business and personal lives etc. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 15, 2020, 02:04:32 am --- --- Quote from: nctnico on April 14, 2020, 03:07:37 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on April 14, 2020, 03:46:09 am --- --- Quote from: nctnico on April 13, 2020, 03:27:18 pm ---Over here they are allowing a limited number of people inside shops to adhere to governments rules. Works pretty well and it is enforced legally. The same can work for gyms, etc. And don't forget: people who work from home can create their own schedule. They are no longer bound to a '9 to 5' rythm. From a biological standpoint there is no rule which says humans (like to) work best from 9 to 5. --- End quote --- Most people do not work from home and will not in the future. Things aren't going to be that radially different. Yes some business will realise work form home isn't that bad and will move a bit in that direction. But I'm willing to bet that in a few years time when this has all blown over, the world will on average look and work very little different to what it did 3 months ago. Do you have kids?If not then you likely won't understand why a lot of the daily/weekly routines exist. --- End quote --- I have kids for over 2 decades. The youngest is getting on-line lessons. I've also been working from home for nearly a decade. The only reason to adhere to a strict schedule is when people really need to work together on the same item at the same time. Now think hard of where that is really really true. In the end the answer is likely meetings and team sports. --- End quote --- No, it's getting kids ready, dropping them off at school, picking them up from school, getting them to swimming and soccer and *insert other events here*, lunch is roughly midday, dinner roughly the same time every night, meals need to be prepared etc etc. Regular life routines, regular as clockwork for the majority of people. As for the likes of gyms, majority of people don't like to go at random hours, or hours dictated by some social time scheduling guidelines. They want to go to their favorite class with their favorite instructors at the most convenient times to them. Before work, lunch time break, after work etc. --- End quote --- IMHO you are not seeing the upsides. If you work from home then who cares at what time you work? You can go to a movie or gym in the morning or afternoon and work in the evening. Or go for a workout on Monday morning and work on Saturday afternoon. Your favorite gym instructor doesn't work during 1 hour per week (and given the circumstances the gym is likely to alter the schedule). Sure things like getting the kids ready for school and dinner still exist at fixed times but other than that working from home allows a different schedule compared to the typical 9 to 5 schedule. This is exactly what I have been doing the past decade. And it is not a random schedule; it is a schedule which fits me best given the circumstances. Your kids are likely free from school one afternoon. It could be nice to do something fun with your kids instead of working. IOW: when working from home working hours no longer exist. Freedom! I'm not a person who likes to change routines (I score pretty good on autistic traits) but I have changed my routines due to the Covid19 virus. I don't like it but what is the alternative? Sit in a corner and be angry about it? Normally I go swimming twice a week during the cold season on (pretty much) fixed moments. But since the pools are closed I picked up cycling earlier than usual. I don't really like cycling wearing a winter jacket but I'm starting to get the hang of it (getting the thermal management right so to say). I also bought a thick wetsuit to swim in the lake nearby but somehow my wife is very against me going swimming in the lake right now (which I normally do during the summer anyway). According to this study from Harvard we even might be facing lock downs until 2022: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/04/14/science.abb5793 However I do think some countries have implemented lock downs which are way too strict. IMHO Germany and the Netherlands are implementing measures which allow enough freedom of movement to keep daily life and work going on while stopping the virus from spreading too quickly. Over here more and more shops are re-opening (with a modified interior to allow enough distance between people). |
| SerieZ:
Yes, Switzerland has not been a stellar example. Probably because our elected Leaders were afraid of the economic repercussions and also aware too late. We also have very close ties to Italy, especially the provinces most affected. It is hard to tell. Same can be said about most Western countries. --- Quote from: bd139 on April 14, 2020, 04:30:02 pm ---Half my family is Swiss. And they'd be quite happy to piss on the graves of people from another canton. Never use the Swiss as an example for anything other than being pricks as a whole. --- End quote --- Hmmm..., if anecdotal Evidence is enough for you to judge a whole people I think I will pass on anything you have to say as well. :palm: |
| thinkfat:
--- Quote from: nctnico on April 15, 2020, 01:17:38 pm ---However I do think some countries have implemented lock downs which are way too strict. IMHO Germany and the Netherlands are implementing measures which allow enough freedom of movement to keep daily life and work going on while stopping the virus from spreading too quickly. Over here more and more shops are re-opening (with a modified interior to allow enough distance between people). --- End quote --- Yes, but we're currently ruining our economy with lock-downs, too. Germany is more than just car makers (which are in deep trouble, too, btw), but there's a huge amount of people in gastronomy, culture, tourism, etc) who cannot work. We'll loose most of our restaurants in a short while. |
| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 15, 2020, 02:04:32 am ---People will want to get back to this routine as soon as possible, and the longer they aren't allowed to do that the more pissed of people are going to be. They don't want a "new normal" and will not accept it in the long term, you'll see. --- End quote --- Of course. And as I said already, how could they not? If this "new normal" that some are talking about is just switching to a society where you're being constantly told what to do and when you can do it, it looks a lot like home detention. Already said that, but that's currently what we are subjected to. Home detention. Even people under real home detention have more freedom than we currently do. Who would want to live like this forever? Seriously? It's mind-boggling to me that some people seem to see it as OK or even desirable. Please help me understand. |
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