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PlainName:

--- Quote --- As james_s wrote:
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It was bd139, actually, but I bet no-one's ever seen them in the same room together :)

As an anti-Googler and not a fan of Apple either, I have to hand it to them that they have got this one exactly right. I'd have no issue either installing the app or allowing the OS to do it all (which it will, eventually, according to their plan). At least, at the moment - no doubt someone will figure out a good hack which will defeat them at some point.

And that embedding in the OS thing should tell us that this is here to stay, so the government version won't be just for a couple of months and then you remove it. After this pandemic there will be another, but hopefully we will be better prepared to mitigate it, via things like this BT feature and non-depleted stockpiles, and it will be much less hassle.
SiliconWizard:
Another question: how can the app know who is infected? I suppose it entirely relies on each invidual voluntarily declaring this through the app? How reliable would that be really, knowing we are definitely not nearly as obedient/compliant as korean or chinese people?
PlainName:

--- Quote ---and who there were near
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Doesn't need to know who they were near. Just that the owner of the phone that handed out such-and-such ID, which was colocated last week, has gone down with it. The only info held centrally is what ID to broadcast as being a dodgy one. Done right, even that central won't know who, or even what phone, it's just some anonymous number.

Having said that, it might be possible for TPTB to take someone's phone and see what IDs they've been next to, and then pick someone elses phone and see if it generated any of those IDs. That'd be really tedious, though, and they'd have to be pretty sure who to try it on with before getting started or they'd be there all week.
PlainName:

--- Quote ---How reliable would that be really, knowing we are
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My guess is it will take about 4 hours before someone fakes being infected just for the laughs. And someone really infected might have other things on their mind than dicking around with a phone app. In which case there would have to be some 'official' interaction - perhaps a code that only a doctor confirming an infection will provide to prevent false positive abuse, and 'strong incentive' to set yourself as being infected if/when you are.
bd139:
How it works for the uneducated.

https://www.blog.google/documents/57/Overview_of_COVID-19_Contact_Tracing_Using_BLE.pdf

The governments want tracking. The smartphone vendors are only allowing anonymous token exchanges over bluetooth LE (token accumuation). In fact the NHS here got all pissy when Apple said not to them.
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