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nctnico:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 27, 2020, 06:24:18 pm ---It's interesting to see that despite this crisis showing the limits and risks of our overly globalized world, some people still want more of that as a solution.

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First of all this isn't the first pandemic ever so there is no real relation between the current crisis and a globalized world. Quite the opposite; because sharing information is much easier nowadays there is much more details on how the pandemic spreads before it hits.

The longer I think about the Corona apps the more I'm convinced Google & Apple should come up with something. These companies have experience dealing with the various privacy laws and the technical implications. Governments usually suck at IT solutions and suffer from the not-invented-here-syndrom too; let the governments just handle the legal side of it. At least in the EU there is a good privacy protection framework in place already. Also it would be good when Corona apps work universally so they can be used across borders as well.
paulca:
It would be a bit shit to open up and let Google/Apple run the show and then fine them later for 5 Billion for a technicality GDPR violation. 

I think we should campaign strongly for a fully open sourced solution regardless of where it comes from.
bd139:
I think we should just put the stupid idea where it belongs.

Just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should. Smartphone apps are a shitty hammer for most problems.

Edit: What really happened was:

1. Sick people
2. Can we contact trace?
3. Someone public sector saw opportunity to leverage it for citizen tracking data
4. Private sector said no because they didn’t want to be responsible for the shit show.
5. Peer pressure
6. Tech companies provide a solution which is balanced
7. Public sector throws shit around and calls Murdoch.
8. Google and Apple are cancer suddenly
SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: bd139 on April 27, 2020, 06:48:25 pm ---I think we should just put the stupid idea where it belongs.

Just because we can doesn’t mean we should. Smartphone apps are a shitty hammer for most problems.

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Agreed.

And, as I said above, we are just trying to mimick a solution that's now believed to have worked for others, but without getting the whole picture, including WHY it worked (as part of a bigger solution.)
Meanwhile, it just looks like the usual political stuff. Let's just do something so we can sell people we did something, and move on.
paulca:
So why be told what to do.  Why not grass roots it?
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