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Would you really sell on ebay ?
WPXS472:
Over the years, I have had both good and bad experiences with eBay. Buyer protection certainly has gotten better of late. I have sold on eBay, but rarely do so.
A local fellow who ran a music store sold an expensive guitar on eBay to a fellow in England. It was a bit over $4K. He got his money straight away, shipped the guitar, and thought everything was fine. That is until a couple of weeks later when his money disappeared from his account. He contacted eBay and was told that the buyer reported the item as being counterfeit and destroyed it. That wasn't true, and the fellow was out his $4K. Another instance with a fellow who was selling used PLCs on eBay. At the time they were going for about $1K. He sold a couple to this fellow who emailed him and said he was going to keep the boards and get his money back too. The gentleman I know told him that he would refund his money if he returned the boards. A few days later, the person he had doing his shipping received and signed for a box from the buyer. When he opened it. You guessed, it was empty. But, the buyer had the UPS delivery log showing that it had been signed for. This fellow opened a separate bank account for eBay only and took all the money out regularly, keeping eBay from getting their hands on it. I understand that eBay would probably ban him if they couldn't get the funds to do a refund. My last dust up on eBay was with a seller in China. I bought a small GPSDO board which was advertised as tested, guaranteed working. When I got it, it didn't work. I looked at the board under magnification and found some components missing, and one cracked by a blow from something. This could not have been shipping damage. The unit was well packed. I opened a complaint stating that it was sold as working, but didn't. The seller suggested that I use the OCXO by itself. I declined. saying that I bought a GPSDO. eBay suggested that I try to work things out with the seller, but they weren't cooperating. eBay said they had to pay for return shipping. They claimed they couldn't do that. Then, they Pay Pal'ed me $5 for return shipping. I told them that Return shipping to China would be $36, if they wanted to send me that. They refused. eBay refunded my payment. I identified the missing and broken parts, ordered them, replaced them, and now it works. I did refund then the $5. Years ago, I bought something that was never delivered. When I contacted eBay, the seller had closed his account and his bank account as well. I don't think there is much that can be done about such things as that. I have some things that I need to sell that eBay seems to be the only avenue for me to pursue. I am not looking forward to this.
Simon:
--- Quote from: bdunham7 on October 02, 2020, 06:04:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: Simon on October 02, 2020, 05:04:10 pm ---Excuse me! I think i know a crook when i see one. You honestly believe someone designed a PCB based on a photo that gave no pin outs? Do you seriously use photo's on the web to guide your designs?
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Probably not, but an incorrect photo would be an explicit SNAD (Significantly Not As Described) case and you most likely would be compelled to accept a return at your expense. If he was looking for discount, not a return, then while he is likely an opportunist, you left yourself open for it. Why is the photo wrong? Was there a previous 8-pin version of the same or similar part number? Perhaps he had the data sheet for an 8-pin part that he mistakenly assumed you were selling him.
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No idea but every seller, stockist and the parts own datasheet uses the photo. And I repeat, this twit basically claimed that he designed a PCB off the back of a photo which is a hilariously fake story.
So am I supposed to take a photo of every different 0805 resistor I sell? ebay was never made for electronics parts but plenty of sellers and customers get along fine, idiots will always find something and as a business seller I have to accept a return anyway so will always be open to abuse. I had my warning shot when he complained about the postage costs before buying and so opted to buy more to amortize the cost, then he had a better idea.
SilverSolder:
I have sold quite a bit on eBay over the years, been on there since the 90's. The number of "bad incidents" have been pretty modest out of thousands of transactions. The pleasure of finding what I need, and selling what I don't need, outweigh any problems. Life and commerce sometimes brings problems - you deal with them as efficiently as you can, and move on?
Simon:
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on October 02, 2020, 06:10:44 pm ---As I said there is blame on both sides.
A responsible engineer checks part numbers, data sheets, footprints, manufacturer and a number of other factors before committing to a design or purchase.
A responsible vendor gives complete and accurate descriptions of what they are selling. You used a generic photo, and say it was all right. Would you say the same about a generic data sheet, or footprint?
I am continually frustrated by the stock photos from distributors. When the photo doesn't match the data sheet, or some other discrepancy occurs how do you decide which information is correct? Sure you can email or otherwise contact the vendor, but it is a PITA. And answering those questions in many cases ends up being more work for the vendor than just doing it right in the first place.
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The photo was of a through hole part just a slightly different variant but perfectly descriptive of the case type, orientation of sensor port etc. It gave you all the detail a photo could give you.
nigelwright7557:
--- Quote from: Jan Audio on September 26, 2020, 03:33:42 pm ---Ebay is charging 105 euro if i sell something for 1000.
+ paypal also want to charge 46,50
according to this site :
https://finalfeecalc.com
Would you really sell something and give them for then 150 euro for the service ?
crazy
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A quick look at the alternatives suggests it is a bargain.
Having to pay for google ad words for a website is extortionate.
Other online auction sites while cheap to sell just dont have the number of buyers ebay has.
Ebay is pretty crap at times especially for sellers when problems occur but it works for me.
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